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Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« on: February 12, 2011, 03:59:04 PM »
No, I'm not cussin, just glad to finish this latest saw job. This fella called and asked how thin I could saw. I told him thin enough to see light through. Come to find out he wanted redwood timbers sawed into 1/2" boards. When he delivered them they had shrunk to 2"X6"X8', not what I'ld call "timbers." He said he had bought them from a guy who said they were used in a dam. Of course you've heard this before, " We pulled all the nails, so you shouldn't have any problems." After I had finished, there layed 8 nails and numerous staples, not counting the ones I hit that I didn't see because they had rusted off below the surface, but the worst problem was the fine sand impregnated in the wood. I could actually see sparks coming from the wood when sawing. So one broken blade and four dull blades, I'M DONE. I'll have to admit though, it made a nice pile of paneling, or that's what he said he would use it for. When he see the bill, I'll have the evidence! Dam timbers, huh.
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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 04:25:39 PM »
Some stuff jest ain't 'sposed ta be sawed.  I once sawed a creosote timber....once.   :-\
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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 04:59:09 PM »

 I did a lot of one time sawing, now someone else can do there own experimenting on such things. I sawed some river booms ... once, well twice, he got another load after I had left  ::)  Telephone poles , once never again. Railway ties once, actualy 1/2 of once, I started and did not finish, I gave up  ::)
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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 05:55:12 PM »
For the odd stuff with nails, sand etc would a swing blade with the carbide teeth be more forgiving?
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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 09:29:47 PM »
r.man, You're probably right but wouldn"t work in this case. MM has the right ides, some things just aren't meant to be sawed.
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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 09:39:56 PM »
You could try a stellite blade, but it would take some very very valuable wood to pay for it.
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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2011, 10:13:37 PM »
mate ill saw anything, so long as there happy to pay.

rilway sleepers, power poles, bridge beams, pylons, fence posts.

sand and dirt dont worie the lucas blades, small nails no trouble, big nails and bolts knock the teeth off.

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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2011, 10:14:08 PM »
the worst part is the hot bits of mettal flying at you.

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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2011, 11:49:58 PM »
My dad was an owner in a large new and recyled timber company stared in 1993 called Australian Architectural Hardwoods they had a small crew of 4 denailing full time with metal detecters i remember all the buckets of old nails everywhere

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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2011, 03:36:52 AM »
buckets, ill see if i can get a pic of the denailing area at the red shed in town, tehy jsut drop them, its about 4" thick.

they resaw the stuff into flooring, not my kinda fun but i like the prices tehy get. :D

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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 11:39:36 AM »
For the odd stuff with nails, sand etc would a swing blade with the carbide teeth be more forgiving?
Besides what weisy said about the teeth, a swingmill would be a lot more trouble to clamp and resaw 2x6 on than a bandmill, and along with that this is one case where kerf loss would be a big factor as well.
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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2011, 03:41:57 AM »
TCT is rather brittle, it'll shatter if hitting something hard enough in the timber. Yeah like Carl said, small nails are cool (up to 3mm or 1/8" dia) you drive through 'em without knowing they there, stones in bark are more troublesome, sand in bark is ok, just means you sharpen a bit more often.

With doing a lot of yard tree's there are days you feel like you've just put on a blade and are replacing it before you've even used it :( With my Lucas blades I can get about 30 sharpens and about 1 cubic metre of log per sharpen.

As for resawing a 6x2 with a Lucas, I'd split them, but nothing more, certainly not try and get 1/2" boards out of them and would definitely do it by the hour rather than by boards or volume
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Re: Dam Timbers, I'm Done
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2011, 06:09:59 PM »

a friend of mine brought a log that looked like a dugout canoe to me 2 years ago.
Thought it was chestnut and he had dug it out of  a creek behind his house.
Told him it was junk.
He said saw it I will pay for ruined blades.
We did and it sawed very nice as it was an old growth White Oak log.
No problems as I sawed very slowly and let the de barker work overtime.
Dulled two blades but ruined none.
I saw the  lumber last week and it is beautiful.
Sometimes things just work out.
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