I have been on the road sawing for a few days, but anyway, at first I used Pathway. I was a bit disappointed because I thought that it wasn't working, but it's just slower. Last year I used 8oz or Arsenal per gallon of water. That worked and fast. I paid $535 for a 2½ gallon jug, which will go a looong way. I have used Remedy, but am satisfied with my present mix.