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Started by caveman, August 18, 2011, 10:50:52 PM

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caveman

I am relatively new to sawing and need some advice on which logrite canthook to purchase.  A little background information-I have two canthooks with 5' handles that do okay but do not hook as easily as the one I have with the 4' handle.  The last time I sawed, I was turning a slash pine that was 26" on the small end and broke the handle on my canthook with the 4' handle.  It is the tool I use most of the time.  Would you reccomend that I buy a 4' or 5' logrite to replace the one I busted?  We have an LT 28 (no hydraulics or winch).  Thank  you. Caveman
Caveman

carykong

I had a logrite cant hook. With the aluminum handle.  The hook engaged the logs really well but the handle slowly developed a warp. Aluminum handles are light and strong,unfortunately aluminum does not have the memory and spring that returns it to its original shape.  I returned the canthook for a refund.  I would recommend that you go with a cant hook with a hickory or ash handle.

If you use your hook a lot, you will not be satisfied with an aluminum handle.

Actually before I returned the logrite. I took the cant hook to my local weld shop to copy the hook (lower portion including hook) and made a 6' foot handle out of hickory.  This hook gives me plenty of leverage for the larger logs. 

BTW,do you have a log turner on your LT28?

redbeard

I have never warped or bent mine and it has moved some heavy logs. I like the light weight and handle diameter.
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Jeff

QuoteIf you use your hook a lot, you will not be satisfied with an aluminum handle.

BULL!

There is no way you are going to "Warp" your logrite handle unless you mechanically abuse it or your name happens to end in KONG.

You will find hundreds of members that use logrite and would use nothing else. I think the hook is the same on the 4 and 5 footers, but I could be wrong.  You won't have to ever worry a bit about it aging and getting weathered and someday busting your ass when it breaks. The logrites will hook better than any wood handled hook you have ever used.

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Quote from: Jeff on August 19, 2011, 02:25:24 AM
QuoteIf you use your hook a lot, you will not be satisfied with an aluminum handle.


or your name happens to end in KONG.   :D :D :D :D :D



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customsawyer

I bent one of mine. Well not sure you can say I bent it but it  was my fault when the log rolled off the deck and landed on it just right. I was lucky in that it landed perfectly to look like I bent it by turning a log. It only has a slight bend to it and it still works great. Logrite offered to replace it but I told them that it was in no way a defect in the product just in the user. I have abused my logrite cant hook and three peeves but have never had one not work perfectly.
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Dan_Shade

If it was a LOGRITE cant hook, and the handle bent, it was abused, or had a material defect.  If it was one of the northern toolhttps://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=position"> Note:Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company ripoffs, then a bent handle is no surprise.

Logrite does make a cant hook with heavier tubing for those who like to abuse their equipment.   :D

I like my 60" peavey the best.  Mainly because I can stick it in the ground and not have to bend over to pick it back up.

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bandmiller2

I use boath logrite cant hook and wood handle.Only problem with logrite is they grow legs and walk no one bothers with the scrody old woodies.I'd like to see a larger swinging hook option most peavy/cants have trouble gripping large logs. Frank C.
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Bibbyman

Quote from: bandmiller2 on August 19, 2011, 06:48:03 AM
I use boath logrite cant hook and wood handle.Only problem with logrite is they grow legs and walk no one bothers with the scrody old woodies.I'd like to see a larger swinging hook option most peavy/cants have trouble gripping large logs. Frank C.

I'd like to have a LogRite with a shorter hook.  We have two 30" and one 36" "mill specials" and the hooks are too big to work well rolling and placing 6x8 cants.  

One size don't fit all... :)
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Jeff

They have the bigger option in the Super Stick.
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Chris Burchfield

I love my LogRite 60" cant.  I picked it up over at the WM 25 year birthday celebration at Will's place in Missouri.   I weigh 275lbs. @ 6' have bounced on the end with my weight to roll some awfully big logs.  I've not bent my cant.  I've seen folks get a bite on a log and use a tractor and chain on the end of the cant to turn logs over.  This is the only way I can see to bend one.  Though it did work, this is not what or how they were designed to be used for.
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WDH

The LogRites are superior when it comes to hooking the log.  Night and day difference from a traditional cant hook.  The 5' is more versatile on a manual mill as you can get more leverage to turn the big logs.
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paul case

i replaced my 4' cant hook with a 4' logrite and it works much better than the old one.

add me to the list of more than satisfied logrite owners.  pc
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Magicman

I get to try out my new 5 footer next week.   smiley_thumbsup

As a side note, I went to my welding shop to find a replacement for a broken wood handle peavey.  What I got was not pipe, but steel tubing that is used for building race cars.  It is thin, light and very strong.

Hook angles, arches, and lengths differ.  It's frustrating when a cant hook/peavey won't catch a log.  Some are designed for small logs and some for large.  I think that some are not designed at all.   :-\

Wood handles rot.  I paint mine with a preservative and coat them with sanding sealer each year.  Rot still happens.
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Chuck White

I like my 4' LogRite cant hook really well and use it every time I run the mill!

I would just as soon have the handle just a smidgen smaller, I doesn't fit my hands the way I feel it should, but hey I still love it.

I have several old wooden handled cant hooks, well, my off-bearer broke the handle on his favorite so I had a friend make a replacement on his lathe.  Made it out of Hard Maple and installed it with the grain turned in the strongest direction.
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John S

Just watched the Log-Rite vs. Northern Products video, pretty impressive!  Thanks for the info.
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WH_Conley

I have two 30" mill specials that have turned untold thousands of logs with no problem.
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dnalley

I wonder if you checked with Logrite, how many handles out of a hundred would "slowly develop a  warp"??  I'd venture to say not ONE!  Wood I could understand warping--maybe, but with a Logrite, if it is warped it was abused by something other than human hands---even a BIG man :o

dukndog

I got one of their "orange" chainsaw cants and had it for around 4 years, staying outside, leaned up against my pile, and have ran over it numerous times with my tractor.  No warps bends or crush....just chipped orange paint and the grip rubber on the handle torn!!
Logrite makes a high quality product...just wish they would run for office...me thinks they could build a stronger US!!!

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Larry

Quote from: Dan_Shade on August 19, 2011, 06:33:35 AM
I like my 60" peavey the best.  Mainly because I can stick it in the ground and not have to bend over to pick it back up.

A cant hook stand works well also.





I improved my old Dixie cant hooks by boring out the pivot hole and replacing the bolt (I can break them) with a hardened steel pin.  Re-shape the sharp point and sharpen.  Re-shape and sharpen the end fitting.  After these improvements you will still have a POS cant hook, because the geometry is wrong and the construction is poor.  Simpler to buy a Logrite the first time.

At times I do dream of a Logrite with a laminated walnut and ash handle.  Yes, I hate aluminum baseball bats also. :D
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Dan_Shade

or how about carbon fiber and kevlar?   :D
Woodmizer LT40HDG25 / Stihl 066 alaskan
lots of dull bands and chains

There's a fine line between turning firewood into beautiful things and beautiful things into firewood.

Magicman

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customsawyer

I guess you'll are saying I am the only one strong enough to bend a logrite. Even if I had to cheat I still got-er-done. ;D
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red oaks lumber

running one over to bend it dosen't count ;D
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jcbrotz

I bent Mine and was not happy about it!






I was however suprised to see 573 boobcat on the cant hook. Unfortunatly The operator did not see the cant hook leaning on a log he only the log and he tried to push it out of the way to get the machine out. And for once it wasn't me  :D
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