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Re: Huffing woodstove
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2011, 01:06:14 PM »
I have the Dutchwest made by Vermont Castings with a catalyst. I have this problem sometimes and have to open the damper for a few seconds to let it vent. Usually adjusting the air inlet to give it a little more oxygen fixes this problem. I don't know how fast you are closing your damper after building a fire but I always wait until I have at least 1" of coals in the bottom and my firebox is at least 450 degrees F before closing the damper. Also if the temperature outside is mild you may not get the proper draft on your chimney that you get on a cold day.

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2011, 09:20:29 PM »
  I go for 500 degrees, the instruction manual shows where to put your stove pipe thermostat.  VC calls this stove their non- cat version, there is no cat, but it has a big block of something like firebrick with holes in it, which essentially does the same thing, just not supposed to burn out.  Found a video of a stove like mine huffing on U tube, by CLC Drama, if I were a computer geek, would put a link here.
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Re: Huffing woodstove
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2011, 04:43:23 AM »
Just highlight the youtube link with the mouse with left mouse button down, copy (Ctrl-C) , then click in the post window with the mouse and hit Ctrl-V to paste into your post. I don't think the video will post unless you have a little text added to the post . Good to have tabbed browsing in your web browser, so you can click back and forth between web pages. Not the back/previous button. When copying and pasting with the mouse, the right button clicked brings up a edit menu to copy/paste as well.
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Re: Huffing woodstove
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2011, 07:57:04 AM »
 Do you have the Everburn system? I saw something about this system. That person had a hot bed of coals , 600 degree stack temp then put dry wood in and closed the air damper. It seems like a very good system. Maybe going to 550 or 600 degree stack temp will help with your problem.  Holmes
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2011, 10:36:00 AM »
  Think I'm learning something. Instruction manual says build a small fire to help with back puffing. So last evening I used shop vac to clean holes in ceramic back plate, then built a fire with 2 scrap boards. After about a half hour of burning, thermo showed 450 degrees, and I engaged the damper.  It continued to burn and left it alone for another half hour.  Wood was then coals, so put in 3 smaller pieces of split firewood. Seemed to be burning ok after a few minutes, so engaged damper.  Went upstairs.  Wife says the house is getting to smell like smoke.  So went downstairs, and the stove was going WHUFF.  So I disengaged the damper, let it burn a while, maybe 15 minutes, then reingaged damper.  Then it was ok overnite.  Very few coals this morning, but a few. Put in 2 small pieces of wood, burned for an hour before engaging damper, finally was burning ok without whuffing. Added some wood when first wood was coals, seems to be burning ok.  Seems the trick is to build a small fire in the biggest wood stove I could buy.  Jim
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Re: Huffing woodstove
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2011, 10:48:48 AM »

I'm a tellin ya the more you folks elaborate on so called high tech wood stoves the less I'm impressed with them .

Sounds to me the things are more trouble than they're worth .Who in the world wants something as basically simple as wood stove you nearly have to romance and make love to to get to work correctly .Good grief .  :D

Now sits this old dummy with a 30 year old glass front Lopi with a simple slide damper and I don't have a bit of problems .Toss the wood in ,let it burn ,stay warm and shovel the ashes out once every two weeks or so .Simple things for a simple man .

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Re: Huffing woodstove
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2011, 11:09:54 AM »
I have to agree with Al in this one. Might have to cut a little more, but, don't need a college degree to use it. My old Ashley, little kindling, wait a few minutes, some big wood, wait a few minutes til it catches, fill it up and shut down tight, come back in a few hours and add more wood.
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2011, 11:13:59 AM »
 ;D That's what I say. I'm glad we don't have stove police around here. ;)
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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2011, 11:42:37 AM »
 :) Aha ha we don't have the chainsaw police either .The last of those who came through  it was rumored got stuffed in a shipping container and shipped to the west coast . Probabley in China now for all I know .

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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2011, 12:07:06 PM »
We don't have any chainsaw police here. Our Stihl saws are German made. We have about 1 Worker's comp officer for the entire province. know him by name to, Carol Sawyer. No lie.  In all the years I've been in the woods, I have never seen one of those guys anywhere. And on crown land I saw the mill guy that checks the crews twice in three years.
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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2011, 12:08:58 PM »
  Glad to hear you are getting a handle on your stove.  All new stoves have a learning curve, mine is a catalytic and it took a while to get used to. I am very pleased with it now and would not go back to an old style stove. Certainly a lot less worry about creosote, chimney fires and my wife feels it is safe to use this stove.   
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Re: Huffing woodstove
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2011, 12:19:24 PM »
Those of us with the old style stoves we check our pipes and flues periodically, which I would do anyway no matter what stove I used. My shop stove never has as much as a palm full of soot from all winter and flu maybe a liter of loose stuff a year. Just cleaned the furnace pipes today and nothing of consequence in there after 2 months burning.
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Re: Huffing woodstove
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2011, 01:32:03 PM »
The single biggest variable in wood stoves is the operator.

Yes, some designs might be capable of burning more cleanly or more efficiently, but any of that is dwarfed by burning improperly seasoned wood, or not operating your stove properly. Some stove designs are more tolerant of less than optimal techniques, or are able to run well under a wide variety of conditions, but it still comes down to using what you have properly.
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Re: Huffing woodstove
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2011, 04:43:32 PM »
You have about three stages of wood burning .The open flame which it turn releases the gasses  then the charcoal which really holds the majority of the heat and for all intents is the least  creosote producing of all .

If you can maintain to some degree all three stages you'll get the most heat and the least pollutants .

You can load them up for over night but it's how you do it as to weather it puffs smoke all  night long or just burns and doesn't smoke like a cold diesel .

I'm kind of like good ole Swamp  in that there isn't much gunk in the flue .Just a tad near the exit hole in the top is about it .

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« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2011, 05:12:22 PM »
My old shop stove might be a POS to many because it's as old as my dead grandfather. And he was a child of the 19C. Well, you know how old I am, look to the left. :D But I only use 1.5 cords all winter and the shop never freezes. I can leave the shop 3 days in 20 below weather and it don't freeze. The shop isn't big and low sealing, but I figure I'm getting near the maximum I can get for heat from that little pile of wood. I only use about 4 slabs all day, that's if I am in there all day. And the door is 1/4 to 1/2 way open at that. ;D

I won't even go into what I see across the road because it would be pointless unless you lived here and see it with your own eyes. You'd call me a liar. However, someday I expect to see the red coats over there. Well, they don't wear them now, that's just for ceremonies. :D
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« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2011, 08:49:53 PM »
  Thanks for the support, I'm finally getting the hang of operating this woodstove.  Just limit myself to 3 pieces of split firewood. My theory is that there are just not enough holes in the smoke burner to support a big fire. If I weren't afraid of breaking it, would just drill some more holes.  Went all day today with no huffing, and it's about 70 in the house. Had to tend to the stove every time I came in, but not a big deal.  Had the idea I could just fill the stove with wood, limit the air, and fill it twice a day. Ha Ha
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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2011, 08:57:49 PM »
Now you are getting there. There will be no end to learning more, so keep on keeping on. :)
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« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2011, 09:13:13 PM »
Don't drill it! Vermont Castings is a reputable stove manufacturer

You should be able to put more than 3 pieces in the stove at a time. If you can't, something is wrong. It's possible that burner is partially clogged (it still sounds an awful lot like a catalytic stove to me, or maybe one of their "dual mode" stoves). You should be able load up the stove at least 2/3 full. If you can't, you should talk to your dealer about it.

If it was working well when first installed, then you need to figure out what has changed. It sounds as though the stove is not getting enough air. Could be that burner you described is clogged, or could be something else. I'd get it checked out.
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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2011, 04:05:27 AM »
Have you checked the flu for blockage?
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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2011, 11:29:19 PM »
  Yes, I checked the flue.  Had the same trouble last year, thought it was that the firewood was too wet.  So I cut up and split more last winter, got the wood into the basement this fall, put the dehumidifier next to the wood pile and ran that.  Firewood is probably too dry now. Just looked at the Vermont castings website, now it says the non- catalytic stove is for ambience, less for heat.  Says get the catalytic for heating your house.  Wish they had told me that before I bought this thing.
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