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Heating your home
« on: February 01, 2004, 09:14:37 PM »
I am getting sick and tired of the rising cost of propane and fuel oil  >:( so I am thinkin of a second source of heat for my house, and was wonderin if anyone here uses wood pellet stoves, if so do you like or dislike it, what btu is your unit,etc, etc any info would be appreciated


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Re: Heating your home
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2004, 02:10:25 AM »
Don't know about pellet stoves. But why not consider an outdoor boiler, then you can use your slabs for fuel.
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Re: Heating your home
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2004, 02:50:32 AM »
This is what we use, an outside wood burner. Wife keeps the heat up to 78 degrees when I'm not inside, she's kinda cold blooded I guess. We use to have a $400 fuel oil bill a month.
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Re: Heating your home
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2004, 03:46:57 AM »
Pellet costs are a little high, and not much better than the other fuels.  Costs in my area are at $150-175/ton.  I think you would do better with coal, especially in your area.
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Re: Heating your home
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2004, 04:36:53 AM »
Have used electric heating and it woks good, low invest- and using- costs. My last electric bills have been to big now. :'(
Im looking at heat pumps. Air/air  types can even heat wather and isnt very expensive.
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Re: Heating your home
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2004, 06:49:40 AM »
I use the hot water furnaces too.  I have a Taylor for the house as well as one for the kiln.  I am heating a 3,000 sq.ft. house very well.  If I had it to do over I would buy a unit that is a combination wood and probably fuel oil or maybe even sadust.  But with sawdust you would have lots of creosote build up I would imagine, due to its not being totaly dry.  I gus I could start running it into the kiln. ;D  but, agian, I would have the hig  electric bills for fans running for two or three weeks at a time.  No win, I reckon. :-/

 I sure would consider a water furnace of some sort with wood and a secondary type of fuel it would burn as a backup, or if you were toooo tired to go out and stoke the firebox with wood.  I have heard that some units will also burn used oil as well as wood.
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Re: Heating your home
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2004, 10:08:28 AM »
I heard about a man fireing with used oil. He placed a brick in an old furnace and heated up the brick  with wood. Let some drops/miute through a pipe and a valve on the hot brick. I think the brick works like a  wick.

New oil isnt healthy, used oil is poisonous. So I send my used oil for recycling and pay for it.

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Re: Heating your home
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2004, 01:24:35 PM »
Ron that is high for pellets. Considering you get 2.5 tons per cord of northern hard maple or beech at $110/cord = $44/ton stove wood. Canadian $$  :)

I burn 1.25 cords/mo and electric is $75/mo average. Not bad eh?

phew its turned quite mild here (well 20's and 30's) the last few days, almost too warm for wood, considering I have to keep the window open with a low fire hehehe  :D
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2004, 01:41:11 PM »
I know every time I look at pellet prices, I just shake my head.  When they first came out with pellet stoves, the price was over $100/ton.  We could buy cut and split for $80/cd back then.

Pellets are a lot cleaner, and are supposed to have a more even heat.  I just don't see the economics with it, especially when you can get firewood at a pretty low price, depending on how much sweat equity you want to put into it.

I think the comparisons are 1 ton coal = 100 gal fuel oil = 1 cord hardwood.  

We've finally got the wind chills out of the single digits.  My house is hard to heat when its windy.  When oil goes up, the thermostat goes down, and the wood stove gets used a lot.  
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2004, 02:02:26 PM »
145 gallon fuel oil = 1 cord northern hard maple or beech. My oil tank is 200 gallons and I know I'de burn 75 % of it in a  month and it would never give the heat my wood does. There's a 20 F difference in the heating between my oil and wood furnaces. Wood being the hotter. My mother's uncle used to burn a  full 250 gallon tank a month and his house is smaller than mine, it never got above 75 F and he also burned wood in a kitchen stove. You don't need no quilts on the beds in my house unless you'de like to be a grease spot by mornin  ;)

Gotta love that wood heat. Our minister of Natural Resources said we have to start using more efficient heating sources to save electricity. I figured it out that running the fan for my furnace only costs me $20 a month. Electricity is $20 cheaper from May 15th  to October 31st, around $60 average. And I only have to sweat 4 days a year bucking, splitting and handling the wood. Nice trade off  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2004, 03:51:21 PM »
I use a Central Boiler 500,000btu outdoor wood furnace to heat my house, my parent's house and all of our domestic hot water.  Neither of these houses has much in the way of insullation, so I burn alot of wood.  The wood can be unsplit, green, and fairly large if you have some smaller wood around the big stuff.  This is an open vented boiler system, so you don't have to worry about pressure build up, etc.  Heat pump for back up in case I break a leg  :o.
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Re: Heating your home
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2004, 03:54:12 PM »
I think I hit the wrong button gizmo :D
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2004, 03:58:58 PM »
They say those outside furnaces are nice, but i just can't get my head around having a furnace outside loosing heat that wood be best used to heat my basement. Sure you can pipe it into the basement but seems inefficient to loose heat to the -20 outside air, which try as you might, you'll never heat up. And I don't like the idea of wading through 4 feet of drifting snow with windchill to feed this thing-ah-mah-jig  ;)

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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2004, 04:08:52 PM »
I use wood and coal, when its in the 30's or higher I burn just wood, when it gets below the 30's I use wood and coal. I fill it up about dark time and dont mess with it until the next day. I burn about 2 ton of coal a season, the house is well insulated.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2004, 04:10:08 PM »
Central boiler- heats shop, house, domestic, and (soon) kiln. It ain't fussy, but it is hungry. Used 11.8 gals heating oil last month- like that part compared to last season. 8)
Just can't see a savings in pellet stoves. Firewood is cheaper.
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2004, 04:20:36 PM »
Ok Ok I use wood in the two stoves here but with 3200 sq ft I also hit the lottery once a month when the oil man delivers for the front of the house on the same day the gas man delivers for the back.
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2004, 04:27:03 PM »
@ EZ:

Yeah your setup is nice but don't you find it hellish hot when your burning in the 30's? A little bit of wood goes along way.....gosh I'de die with all those heat sources and I have 10 foot ceilings throughout :)

Today I burned 4, five inch by 18 inch sticks and 3, two inch by 18 inch sticks and windows open. It got up to 35 F outside today. :)
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2004, 04:31:38 PM »
@ Woodmills

Isn't it awefull we have nothing to talk about but ways to keep our butts warm? Doesn't anyone saw in the cold?   :D  :D  :D


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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2004, 04:36:51 PM »
I gotta saw some pallet wood tommorrow, hope the battery made it through the chill :D
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Re: Heating your home
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2004, 04:45:52 PM »
> around having a furnace outside loosing heat that wood
> be best used to heat my basement

All the ones I have seen used buried insulated pipes for the hot water and a heat core/sink/exchanger sometimes in the basement too. Very little heat is lost, far more is lost in a normal fire place.

The best thing is the newer EPA approved stoves with glass fronts and side door feeds. If you get a smaller one and keep it constantly feed so the temp. stays up there, you can burn practically anything.



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