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Boring Machine Auger Bit Question

Started by Brian_Weekley, February 14, 2012, 09:58:11 PM

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Brian_Weekley

I acquired a nice looking auger bit for my boring machine at a local garage sale.  However, when I got it home, I discovered the shank is actually tapered.  It doesn't look like it was cut down from a T-auger.  Were there any boring machines out there that actually took a tapered auger bit?  I was going to take a file to it, but don't know how round I could keep it.  Any suggestions on the best way to turn it down to fit?

Thanks!   

 
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Jim_Rogers

Have you tried it in your boring machine?

The end looks like it is correct, that it has a dimple for the set screw to lock into.

When we turn any ends we usually try to turn them to .495 so that they'll be just a bit under 1/2" so that they will fit all standard boring machine chucks.

Jim Rogers
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Dave Shepard

It will be difficult to accurately machine the bit without a lathe. I have several bits that need some correction, and we will do them in a friends large metal lathe. My factory original bits are all really close to .500" and no taper. My undersize bits will have to be built up with weld and then turned true. If it is tapered in the last inch or so, I think you will have a hard time getting the bit to stay tight and centered. There are tapered bits for machine tools, but not for boring machines that I'm aware of.
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Brian_Weekley

Thanks Jim and Dave.  It sure looks like an old boring machine auger bit, but it has a taper of about 0.52 to 0.57 inches over the first two inches of the shaft.  I'm thinking about putting a die to it that would have an internal thread diameter as close to 0.5 inches I can find.  Then I could just file off the threads to hopefully leave a reasonably round shaft of the correct diameter.  No hurry since I have other bits to use now.  Just looks like too nice a bit not to get into my machine sometime.  I can't picture how you could put it in a metal lathe to turn it down.  Wouldn't the chuck hold it right where you need to turn it?
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Geddy107

Thank you all for taking time to post this information, I'm new to owning a Boring machine, just grabbed an old Swan off marketplace a week ago. although mine was missing all the screws/ wing nuts for the angle adjuster and missing an auger bit as well. I was bummed out to learn the shaft diameter of the auger bits for a boring machine are not necessarily the same as those used in a bit brace. @Jim_Rogers as I have been snooping the forums I understand you're the man to talk to regarding auger bits. Would you also know where to get Original Wing Nuts? (I was wanting to keep as much originality as possible for the machine, but if not that's fine too)   

Jim_Rogers

Quote from: Geddy107 on Yesterday at 01:45:37 PMWould you also know where to get Original Wing Nuts? (I was wanting to keep as much originality as possible for the machine, but if not that's fine too) 
Can you post or send me a picture of the machine where the wing nut would be?
I'll have to contact Tom, who does the restorations of the machines, and see if he has any spare parts.

Jim Rogers
Whatever you do, have fun doing it!
Woodmizer 1994 LT30HDG24 with 6' Bed Extension

Geddy107

Quote from: Jim_Rogers on Today at 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: Geddy107 on Yesterday at 01:45:37 PMWould you also know where to get Original Wing Nuts? (I was wanting to keep as much originality as possible for the machine, but if not that's fine too) 
Can you post or send me a picture of the machine where the wing nut would be?
I'll have to contact Tom, who does the restorations of the machines, and see if he has any spare parts.

Jim Rogers

@Jim_Rogers sure thing,




After I took the picture of the carriage bolts, I'm not even sure which one would have been original. No issues if Tom doesn't have any bolts with the wing nuts I just figured I'd ask.

My primary intent in messaging you was to see if you had an 3/4" auger bits that would work with the boring machine? I'd also be interested in any 1 3/4" bits as well.

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