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Need help... EZ Boardwalk JR.
« on: February 15, 2012, 09:17:02 PM »
My new to me Sawmill, the EZ Boardwalk JR., is cutting very off... 

We had our first band slip off; brother in law came over, helped push mill - one thing led to another... and the blade comes off and starts flipping around.  I replaced with one of the other blades that came used with the deal and tensioned to the point where the mill had been before. 

And 3 days and 2 more blades later...  this is how my mill is cutting still - I need help.

Okay, height set at 3" on the head...

 

Set...
 

WHAT THE!!!  :o :o

 

 

Other end...

 

 


I've spoken with EZ on the phone and he sent me the manual, which doesn't give any specific instructions or diagrams of the actual unit. 

If anybody knows where all the measurements for the guides, and the best way to set them would be great.  Also would like to know how to properly level the entire head unit; ensure cables are in the right spots, bolts are tightened/loosened as they should, and so forth.

I just want JR. running the way he should be - and was...  Here's a couple of pic's from before I started tinkering with things and messed it all up...

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Re: Need help... EZ Boardwalk JR.
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 09:59:38 PM »
Hi Ozarkian,

You might try the following:

1)  Get a 4' level and level the bed where the log rests both directions.  Repeat at each end of both rails, in the middle both long ways down the rails and accross.   Get it good and level.

2)  Place the blade directly over one of the bed cross members that the log rests on.  Measure down from each end of the blade opening from the blade to the cross member.  Measurements should be the same.  Repeat at each bed cross member.

Let us know what you get.   That is a start to checking it out.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 10:28:32 PM »
What all have you been tinkering with? Something to consider- Do you think that there might be a slight chance that your frame is now warped from the welding you had done?

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Re: Need help... EZ Boardwalk JR.
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 10:54:03 PM »
Blade tracking could be off if blade is walking off , spin it forward and backward by hand a dozen revolutions each direction with blade at full tension, if  it moves in or  out your tracking could be off. You want the blade to not move at all and flush to back side of wheels or manuals recomendation.
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Re: Need help... EZ Boardwalk JR.
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 10:55:29 PM »
I really doubt if you messed anything up, except the band. You said you put another band on the mill? It was a used band? Here is a rule of thumb,If you begin having those kind of troubles , put on a new band and see if it still does it.
I would say that your bands are dull. My mill wants to cut up and fall off the far end of the log when it exits when the band gets dull. Yes sometimes up to 1/4''. Put a sharp band on and she cuts fine. Pushing a band too fast will cause the same results.
Those bands break. They will come off when you bump the back while thay are running. It is all part of the learning curve. PC
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Re: Need help... EZ Boardwalk JR.
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 05:51:57 AM »
You said you had BIL over to help with the pushing. He might be pushing to fast or to slow. I know if my BIL was around my mill I would blame him for all that went wrong.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 06:02:31 AM »
Look close at your picture #2.

Your cutting deeper on the left side of your cant, adjustable arm on blade guide look like it is lower then feed side. Did you bend it or is the adjustment just off. Might be your issue.

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 08:52:33 AM »
I agree with making sure the frame is 100% level first and supported under each jack.  I had a similar problem with our home made mill and after some review we discovered it was because the frame wasn't level.  Once you have the frame level you can measure up from it to the bottom of the bandwheels and see if the distance is the same for each wheel.  Repeat along the length of the frame. 

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 09:25:18 AM »
1.)  Will re-level it, and ensure that each jack is supported.

2.)  EastBC...  In the past three days, I have tinkered with nearly everything out of desperation.  It'd be easier to tell you what I have NOT tinkered with...   :-[

3.)  Tree Winder, I have re-adjusted the Adjustable, and even the Fixed Rollers...  I really wish I knew where and how they are supposed to be lined up the right way in case I had messed it up... 

4.)  I ordered some trial blades from Wood-Mizer and Timber Wolf, hopefully some arrive today - but I am going to take a couple of the bands and try out the EZ Sharpener and see if that makes a difference.  I assumed the used blades I received were already sharpened...  They may not be?  And that could be the whole problem to begin with...  I'd feel pretty silly if it was!

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Here are a couple of photo's I took yesterday, maybe one of you can see something that catches your eye and could be the problem?  I can and will take pics or even video of any specific parts. 


 

 

 

 

And to top it all off...  After a couple hours of making adjustments  - I go to start the motor and...

 

The rope to pull start broke, I had to hook out the frayed rope from inside and re-attach the handle...   >:(  Still starts, but...  I don't think it will last long.  I foresee electric start in the future!



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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 09:43:29 AM »
Oz;  If you have adjusted or otherwise change as many things as you have indicated, I think your only recourse would be to get the manual out and do a complete alignment of the entire mill.

When doing this, do it one step at a time, starting at the very beginning.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 10:04:27 AM »
I have a small manual mill. Had the same style of issue when we first bought the mill. Pulled my hair out as well. After totally adjusting everything on the mill, adding cook roller's, re-adjusting everything again. Found out the majority of the issue's where the band's that came with the used mill. They had been sharpened, perfectly clean, packaged safely, but when a fresh band was put on, bang, half the problem went away. Then the mill was easy to set back up to cut very well.

I don't use the little manual very often but the band's threw me a mega curve ball to start with Ozarkian. 

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 10:09:24 AM »
Hi Chuck, that is precisely what I would like to do...  I have the Maintenance and Operating Instructions faxed to me by Edward Zimmerman...  Attached is a copy in case anybody else needs this for future reference, and to show that it does not give Step-by-Step instructions, or even show a diagram with measurements. 

Okay, taking daughter to baby sitter's then coming back and leveling, measuring, and taking pictures... 

EZ Boardwalk Mill Maintenance and Operating Instructions, 2 pages:

 

 


-Ozarkian


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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 10:10:07 AM »
Your education has commenced. Most of us have gone through the same thing. Hard lesson #1  Don't go tweakin on the mill until you are absolutely certain the problem isn't the blade. Usually is. When you change something and it makes no difference, put it back like it was before you tweak something else...Adjustments will interact..Dull blades do things other than just not cutting...
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2012, 10:16:34 AM »
Thank Silver, gives me a little bit of hope...  God is certainly testing my patience with this one!  Three days, and all I have to show is this...

Originally was gonna be a 4x4 post, and with all the test cuts...  at 3" on the measuring scale - this is the very ugly, akward looking result. >:(

 

 

 

 

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2012, 10:22:40 AM »
Ozarkian;

It was so bad that I thought the mill was junk. I actually let it set there for about 4 month's and didn't touch it. My adjustment's did more harm than good but where fairly easy to fix once a good band was put on the mill. Don't give up like I did to start on the mill. It was my band's, not the mill.

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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2012, 10:26:50 AM »
The mill is definitely not junk, I accept my ADHD and "need" to tinker are responsible for this.  It cut great until band came off.  :)
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2012, 10:33:38 AM »
Since we're both new maybe this will help. I found when I clamped down real low on the cant it would tip  ever so slightly, which inturn let the cant vibrate. I have a couple cants that look just like that.
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2012, 10:33:51 AM »
Oh no, I wasn't suggesting that it was. I was trying to say that I tinkered with everything but what I should have been tinkering with, the band lol. I thought the band's where in good shape, they looked to be but if I would have just got a new properly ground band for the little manual out of the gate I would have saved myself alot of heart ache, time and frustration.

Just trying to point out my mistakes was all.   

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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 10:49:02 AM »
Boy..... They don't give you much to go on as far as a manual.

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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2012, 11:30:01 AM »
Probably not your problem, but what youre experiencing can also happen when sawing wood that has tension in it. If you see the board or slab jump up when the blade comes out of the cut you need too compensate for the tension that is being released in the log or cant. What I do if I see this happening after Ive worked the log into a cant is measure each end and then take a thin cut or two and try an square things up. If this works it is usually tension in the wood being sawed and not one of the other causes that are mentioned.


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