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Re: New Log Truck, Business Plan
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2004, 03:57:05 PM »
I live in Indiana and around here you best not have much money in your trucking rig for hauling logs. I used to haul my own but figuring the time it would take to haul a load I could be cutting and skidding, getting ready for the next load out. I hire a trucker to haul my logs and he charges me about $150 for a 2 hour round trip. He hauls between 25 and 30 tons, in Indiana we are allowed a 10% overload on the state highways. The trucker could make maybe 4 loads from my site each day if I could produce that much. This trucker hauld for anybody but maybe would just average 2 loads day. Most timber operators around here hire most of their trucking done but some have their own just in case a truck is not available to hire. Most of the haulers use 18 wheelers and some use 10 wheelers with a pup trailor. Most haulers use old R model Macks because of the places off road and you will need a rugged truck.

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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2004, 09:39:43 PM »
I drove big truck running from minnesota to california for ten years and I am glad to hear of your college studies ! I was going to add that make sure you buy a new rig with bumper to bumper 5 year warranty so you wont have troubles fixing junk especially crossing the state scales. Out west the log haulers set the trailer piggyback and blow down the road but the biggest log hauling trucks I have ever seen are in michigan , they are huge ! stay in school !  :D sincerely your friend !
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2004, 04:06:41 PM »
Hello i'm new here ,just found this forum while surfing. It's interesting to see how logging is in other parts of the world. As far as buying a log truck,i don't know how long you've been a driver but you should consider driving someone elses truck for a while it help prepare you for what it would be like to own one,like an apprenticeship. I drove for 6 years before i bought my own, a decision i sometimes regret ;D Working for someone else i learnt how to service and repair the truck and got all my bad habits out of the way. You should also talk to an insurance agent,around here you you could'nt afford the insurance if you've never owned a truck before. around here we've lost about 150 loghaulers in the last few years because of soaring insurance,fuel prices and low haul rates.
    Them michigan trruck sure do have lots of axles,i'd hate to have to rotate all them tires. Here in ontario we only have 5 axle trailers and only haul 140-150000 pounds about 24 or 25 cords and still can;t get ahead :D

    What do you call a basement full of truck drivers.......
   a whine cellar  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2004, 04:28:38 PM »
Welcome Noront. THats kinda like the joke we have.

Whats the difference between a truck driver and a puppy dog?

Eventually the puppy grows up and quits whining. :)
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2004, 10:11:17 PM »
 :D :D :DMY,MY,MY, well I am glad I am a piano player in a fast house. Them Truckers,  -- AD, good lookin old flat top.359? 379? --  Its a glamorus life, gone months on end, broke all the time. work, work, worry, worry, when ya sell out break even. all you have done is bought a job. and about 3 marriages. Gentlemen there are better ways to make a living, a good Union Driver will make about $80,000 a year and all bennies, + retirement, if ya gona do it go there. Just an old wore out man.   Duh---Duane    ( Welcome Norant)
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Re: New Log Truck, Business Plan
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2004, 03:05:04 AM »
Hi Noront

Here in New Brunswick they can only get 12 -15 cord on their trailors and they charge $30/cord for trucking. Most of these folks make at least two trips a day. So, $720 to $900 per day isn't bad. Trucking distance is within 100 miles of most mills. If they go further its usually with higher valued stuff so they get more $$ per cord or mbfm. Our local Forest Products Marketing Board pays the trucker from the delivered wood money before the contractor or woodlot owner see's his payment. This was started some time ago because some of the truckers were getting stiffed or had to chase around for their pay. So this measure had snubbed that hassle over night.  :)

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« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2004, 05:38:28 AM »
Noront and Jeff, I love the jokes. I always figured that the truck drivers sholud be making more money than anyone else, on account they drive up and down the road all day seeing what everyone else is doing. They got lots of time to think sitting in the truck coming up with new schemes.

We also contract out most of our trucking. We have kept a small single axle truck for local trips. It is more cost effective for us to hire out the trucking, as we only pay for the capacity we need. We don't have to deal with the DOT either.
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« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2004, 03:30:59 PM »
Did you hear about the trucker who won a million bucks. He was being interviewed on t.v. and the reporter asked him what he was going to do with the cash.I'm going to pay some bills he says,what about the rest asked the reporter, screw em said the trucker there just going to have to wait. :D :D
   Swamp donkey my log trailer was built in N.B., it's a B.W.S.  I don't know how big of company they are but they tried selling trailers in Thunder Bay for awhile. I really can't complain about being a trucker usually it's pretty good,i haul for one outfit that contracts to bowater and it's a short haul compared to some around here plus it's a union job so i get my hourly wage and benefits plus the truck pay. The big thing a hate about hauling wood is the spring thaw, it gets nice and warm so we have to haul at night which means trying to sleep when it' nice and sunny and driving on bush roads that the frost is coming out of at night. All that i can say is that it's great to be a northerner

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« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2004, 09:13:36 PM »
Noront:

Yes, BWS (Bernie's Welding Shop) makes all the log trailors around here. The company isn't like General Motors by a long shot, its just a big welding shop in town here. Thomas Equipment is the largest in town, they make skid steer loaders, mini escavators, potato harvesting and handling equipment and so on. Then there is Metalfab that make fire trucks and telescopic bin pilers for all over.

Yup those old woods roads get pretty sloppy around here to untill mid-may. They're going to dry out quicker this year, no snow, but 30 inches of frost. :D ;D

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« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2004, 01:39:35 PM »
It's a 378 Duane, 379 is the long hood and 378 is that hood thats kinda sloped off. ;)   Ain't mine, it lives over to my buddy's place down the road.   Sounds like you got road hard and put up wet about like I did. ::)

Noront, It's only funny till you are THAT guy, then you about cry at that joke! :'( ::) :-/   But I can smile big now  ;D I got no DanG trucks no more! ;D ;D :) :)
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2004, 10:27:36 PM »
I don't know if you have already made up your mind but I just found this message so I will put my two cents in. I'm in Alabama so I don't know what your market is like but down here this is shortage of DEPENDABLE contract truck drivers.I contract out all of my hauling and after dealing with some real jokers have finally found some good trucks. You have got to have a good name and relationship with your local loggers in order to work at all. Like loggers, contract truck have got a bad name because of a few bad people. As a logger, I look for a truck that will be there everyday, haul as much as he can, and do a minimum of complaining. There is nothing worse to me than the truck driver that whines to me that he ain't making no money because something I have broke down. I know he ain't making no money but I ain't neither and I have a lot more to complain about thatn he does. At least he ain't trying to pay 5 people while no money is being made. Everyone who makes their living off a logging crew  is eating off the same plate. Most loggers I know, if the trucks help them out and don't run off just because they don't like something the loggers will help them out. My trucks have stuck with me thru thick and thin and and I help them out any way I can. Loyalty is a precious in logging. I will reward loyalty before just about anything. Here is my suggestion for finding out about the availability of work. I don't know how it is in your area, but down here us loggers have to operate thru wood dealers/foresters in order to deliver wood. If it's the same way in your area, trying talking to a dealer that operates around where you want to be hauling. That person ought to know if any of his loggers need trucks and can put you in touch with someone who might give you work. If not, try finding out if there are any state logger associations in your area. that would at least give you names to check with. Before you talk to a bank, find out if there's any work for you. You will impress a bank more if you go in with a job already lined up.


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