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Re: A day cutting wood
« Reply #2880 on: March 17, 2019, 11:22:57 AM »
Peter,
Whatís that white sheet of paper attached the the idle side band wheel cover?


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Nice going with that bad boy Peter.  That's the ones that I love to hate sawing.  They are a pain but the reward is great, even if it's only the personal satisfaction of cracking it open.  smiley_thumbsup


When I get a load in I get it all, Big and small, I tell them no more than 30". ok  :D :D :D :D


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Nice looking stuff
What scale do you use when buying?
Wish I could get more WP here.
When I do its $350 Doyle, my scale and I am generous.
I usually look at the logs on the landing before committing


NH has international 1/4" log rule.   With deduction like  Splits, shake, rot, sweep, ants, iron.
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I have inventory to cut too. I do that at the same time with the order. 
17" done now 50-- 1x15x10'  with a few 14".

The edger working well for me.





 
Who was that [take steps to save steps]  ;)

smiley_wavy  Hi Mr, Yellow Hammer.   
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Re: A day cutting wood
« Reply #2881 on: March 17, 2019, 12:28:19 PM »
Great job on the return for the edger.  Its a great example of "Taking Steps to Save Steps."  I appreciate you mentioning it.  You've always got your mind working, which shows in your operation. 
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Re: A day cutting wood
« Reply #2882 on: March 17, 2019, 01:22:12 PM »
 

 
Mill is in the shop for the maintenance once over and then off to the first job for this year. 
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Re: A day cutting wood
« Reply #2883 on: March 17, 2019, 08:51:46 PM »
Nice wack there Bandmill Bandit. 
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« Reply #2884 on: March 17, 2019, 09:08:28 PM »
Thanks Peter 

Just got a note from the client that those are the 16 footers and there are 2 MORE wacks of 12 footer and 8 footers that are bout the same number of logs each so about 180 ish total log count. 

I was thinking 2 to 3 days but now I am thinking a week at least. 
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Re: A day cutting wood
« Reply #2885 on: March 20, 2019, 07:27:15 AM »
A week alone,, A lot of work there. 
Some help will make go faster. 

Iron in a log,


 
got it out, now to get the most out of the log that's left.


 

I put the whole on a 45į and edge it out as I cut.  
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« Reply #2886 on: March 20, 2019, 09:22:42 PM »
This was a "WOW" day!

This is a picture of the upgraded out feed table. Reduced the weight by about 80 lbs. and it is much stronger. <br
   








Hit the first log at 1:00PM


 








Shut the mill off at 5PM with just over 1600 BF stacked and just over 4000 BF on the 7* turbo Carbide on the mill and it is still cutting like a razor blade. Got Love it when the day goes as PLANNED. 

Well, Almost. Was supposed to start sawing at 8 but the morning hours were just way to  short.      
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« Reply #2887 on: March 20, 2019, 10:11:02 PM »
Nice looking show going on there BandmillBandit. What width of blade are you using in your carbide? I'm tempted to try a carbide but am concerned about hitting a rock or some other item that could damage it. I pressure wash if needed and am wondering how they handle non-debarked logs. I would get choked up with a new carbide and hit something or dull it off in some unseen grit or something.

Also what kind of run time can one expect as far as breakage is concerned.
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Re: A day cutting wood
« Reply #2888 on: March 20, 2019, 10:14:13 PM »
Nice setup, I'm making all my roller tables like yours with a full pan with rollers 24" to 30" apart.  Or a conveyor,  ;D

I just got my carbides in 5 in a box.


 
They have a plastic guard on them,
You have to look hard to see the carbide.  :D


 
You can feel it on the very tip of the tooth.
I put one on, Recording the bf of the logs till the blade cuts bad or brakes.


Bandmill  Bandit  Don't you stop to clean out from behind the b57 with carbide blades running so long?
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Re: A day cutting wood
« Reply #2889 on: March 20, 2019, 11:09:43 PM »
I run a B56 on the drive wheel and a B57 on the idler side.

My rollers are 24" on centre. The pans are 3/16ths aluminum 21" x 21" with a 3 inch edge and welded corners bolted in with 5/16ths x 3/4 stainless bolts and nylock nuts.

Running the 1.5 Carbides not sure what gauge.  

So far my average is pushing 7K to 8K BF per sharpening cycle AND I have yet to break one.
This one is in it 2nd cycle so will be approaching 12000BF total as of tonight.

Best single cycle so far was just a tad over 10,000BF out of the box. The other blade thats done 2 cycles cut just over 15000BF and is in the shop to sharpen.
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Re: A day cutting wood
« Reply #2890 on: March 21, 2019, 05:45:50 AM »
I only cut 2 logs up yesterday, But today hammer down. ;D
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Re: A day cutting wood
« Reply #2891 on: March 21, 2019, 12:23:35 PM »
@Bandmill Bandit what dimensions were you sawing when you got 15000 bf on the band?
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« Reply #2892 on: March 21, 2019, 09:54:31 PM »
@Bandmill Bandit what dimensions were you sawing when you got 15000 bf on the band?
That was the 2 cabins I sawed out last fall, about 50 to 60 % 5"X9" X 20' and 16'. The rest was 4"x 6" X 12' , 2"x 8" 12' , 2" x 6" x 12', 1" x 6"x 12' and 1" x 12" x12'.
 
And that was out of the box for about 9000ish bf and the rest on the first sharpening.
The second band that has also had a sharpening is now over 14000 feet and still cutting better than a new double hard but its very near ready for a change. I didn't count at the end of the day today do so it could be over the 15000 mark already.  By the saw dust bags filled today I cut about 3200BF today so likely over the 15000BF already.
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« Reply #2893 on: March 21, 2019, 11:23:09 PM »
Those are quite impressive numbers on your carbides, especially not breaking yet. The production benefit by not changing blades often would certainly be a big bonus. Going to have to give serious thought to this.

Thanks for replying.
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« Reply #2894 on: March 21, 2019, 11:35:09 PM »
Yes Don.
I am way beyond impressed, probably bordering on "is this for real"?

To day was the 4th day of sawing on the current blade.

(I checked my note book in the shop and have made the corrections accordingly Sorry for the wrong numbers.)
As a rule my average was 12 to 15 (note book says 6 to 8 ) MBF on at least 4 or 5 sharpen cycles to breakage point on double hards. AND that meant a new blade to start the day and at least 2 blade changes during the day. Bi metals gave me 6 (not 4) average sharpen cycles to breakage and about 500BF per cycle better yield.

The carbides are working very well and they seem to have drastically reduced ALL of the common quality issues AND they saw VERY smooth lumber.

I  would guess they have increased my average production per hour by about 60 to 80 BF minimum and about 10 to 15% less saw dust, MUCH less saw dust left in the cut and way less saw dust under the mill too as a result.        
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« Reply #2895 on: March 22, 2019, 12:03:09 AM »
These are woodmizer blades?
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« Reply #2896 on: March 22, 2019, 06:50:01 AM »
I can't believe the way they cut. if this works out I'll never cut without a carbide' You can see the flat in the cut.  :o :o :o   Kind of like the difference between sharpening with a rock or a CBN wheel in oil. Will see how it goes. I have another box coming. 
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« Reply #2897 on: March 22, 2019, 08:31:40 AM »
How, who, what is used to sharpen these?  Resharp?  CBN wheel?  
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« Reply #2898 on: March 22, 2019, 11:31:08 AM »
Diamond wheel that is not cheap and you only "tickle" the tip of the tooth. No gulet grind at all and no setting the teeth after the sharpen is done. I do check them to make sure they are all straight.

Sharpen time is a quarter or less.

I assume they are a Woodmizer blade but you'd have to ask Woodmizer to be sure.
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« Reply #2899 on: March 22, 2019, 01:37:38 PM »
My 35 now lives as a re-saw and I run the carbides on her, the old girl will feed as fast as my 70 with those on - it's really impressive.  I am excited about how they will re-saw KD into siding the next time I have to do some as that was always a challenge.  
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