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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2012, 04:43:08 AM »
the different grain count in the same tree would be because as you go towards the top of the tree the wood isnt as old as at the stump.

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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2012, 06:40:35 AM »
Although there is an age difference between top and bottom, the ring size (same ring) at the top will have similar rate of growth on the but. You will probably get more consistent rings in managed stands where the competition is controlled. Up here understory hard maple are at least as old as codoms and sometimes as old as the larger dominants. They will not yield white wood (sapwood yes), they will have a grey brown or chocolate brown heart from long suppression and be the most unstable wood you ever worked with. Forest grown hard maple, even doms, will easily meet the 20/inch specs and a few more to boot. The trouble up here is small volumes. We have lots of hard maple, it dominates the hardwood forest, but they aren't all cue stick material. ;)
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2012, 05:23:27 PM »
Qbuilder, have you ever posted your process here on the FF? I thought It so interesting I saved it on my comp. from another form. If not I think these guys and gals would be very interested in what you do, and how u do it.

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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2012, 05:54:16 PM »
     Yup.  I'd like to see some pics too, if it isn't too much trouble.
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2012, 10:19:12 PM »
i've seen some of his ques and they are very impressive.  post some pics!!!   8) 8) 8)
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2012, 11:17:14 PM »
I have worked with two cue makers in WI that go from woods to finished product.  Incidentally, I do believe that sugar maple is the same in most of its range, except on the edges of the range.  However, hard maple includes black maple and that can be a slight problem.  What makes northern maple better is that the weather is cold, so logs can be stored briefly withoutmloss.  For a smaller operation, consider buying logs and then keeping them in a refrigerator truck when shipping to prevent color loss.  Drying Hardwood Lumber gives very practical info on color control in drying.  Never exceed 105 F until under 20% MC.
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2012, 10:06:56 AM »
I do not know of the Wisconsin builders cutting logs. I have a guess, though.

I haven't posted pictures on here in quite some time. I'll see if I can remember how, and post up up a few.   
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2012, 10:16:39 AM »
All of my pics are in --Photos MUST be in the Forestry Forum gallery!!!!!--. How do I transfer them to my gallery?
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2012, 10:30:40 AM »
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2012, 10:53:29 AM »
Trying this:

 

 
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« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2012, 10:56:00 AM »
Trying again. Last one too small.



 
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2012, 11:15:46 AM »
Ok I think I got it. Here are a few:
 

 
 
 

  

 
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2012, 11:18:29 AM »
A few more:

 

  

  

  

 

And here is a chunk of wood I recently milled for cues:
 

  
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2012, 12:52:00 PM »
Good on the pics.
And while you are at it, you can notice a couple handy tools for posting. One is the "Preview" button, to look over your post before posting it. The other is the "Modify" button, to make a change to a post for any corrections. Then there are not empty posts scattered around. ;)

Nice looking cues. A good use for the white maple. And a talent to behold.  8)
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2012, 12:56:18 PM »
Good on the pics.
And while you are at it, you can notice a couple handy tools for posting. One is the "Preview" button, to look over your post before posting it. The other is the "Modify" button, to make a change to a post for any corrections. Then there are not empty posts scattered around. ;)

Nice looking cues. A good use for the white maple. And a talent to behold.  8)

Thanks much for the advice and compliment :)
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2012, 08:00:23 PM »
Those Q's are exceptional!
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Re: Sugar maple questions
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2012, 04:25:01 AM »
Those are really nice for sure.

If you experiment a little, maybe you have, and select pieces of hard maple that have rings of less curvature (almost flat) and like layers of a sandwich (no run out), you may find that the ray figure comes to the surface much better.  You will only have it on 2/4's of the cue, but would look as brilliant as the other figured woods in the but sections. ;) You would be looking for the larger diameter trees. Also, pieces that include some ribbon streak.

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Might even find some tiny eye like these that aren't a pain to smooth and finish like large eye can be. This was just selected on grade not figure. I find it is quite common in our northern maple. At least I find a fare bit in the lumber at the local wholesaler/broker.

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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2012, 08:12:16 AM »
Man those cue's are just awesome!

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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2012, 08:21:45 AM »
     Thanks Qbilder.  Very pretty work!
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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2012, 09:49:13 AM »
 :) Thanks yall. 
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