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Re: My timber frame build
« Reply #420 on: May 16, 2019, 05:36:21 PM »
I keep telling some of the new truck drivers that winter ainít over yet, by any stretch. There it is!
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« Reply #421 on: May 20, 2019, 12:53:47 PM »
Winter is persistent in the mountains....isnít it.
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« Reply #422 on: June 05, 2019, 07:02:05 AM »
Any up dates? Winter is sure over here. 95F yesterday. :o

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« Reply #423 on: June 05, 2019, 10:52:42 AM »
Temperatures down the hill have been roller-coasting over the last few weeks between mid-60's to mid-90's.  There have been afternoon thundershowers up the hill most every day with no new snow.  Temps up the hill are typically 10 to 15į cooler than down here with overnight lows 15 to 20į lower.  Looks like the white stuff is all gone now. 

Heading up tomorrow with my sawmill head to check on any damage to my track and to get things de-winterized.
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SkyTrak 9038, Davis Little Monster backhoe, Case 16+4 Trencher, Home Built 42" capacity/32" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

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« Reply #424 on: June 06, 2019, 12:27:48 PM »
Good to hear.

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« Reply #425 on: June 06, 2019, 11:42:09 PM »
Update 6/6/19:

Installed my gas pump on my "hydrant".  Removed the well pump head - not working, might have gotten bent from the snow.  Also need to fix some of the PVC that the snow sheared off.  Installed my saw head.  The track damage (below) will need to be fixed.  Also, the track settled unevenly so I need to re-level.  Didn't get a picture but the 8' of snow on my flatbed bent the rail that the front wheel/jack was attached to - need to bring it home to straighten and fix the jack.  Previous post showed my log arch that needs repair.  I might just rebuild it into a lighter weight version like other have.

Here is the extent of the snow left on my property:


 
I made some light weight (test) extensions for my mill last year so I can mill a log as long has my full-strength bunks.  Well, I forgot to remove them before the snow.  Time to make some new (longer, stouter) ones:


 
From the last time I reset - perhaps in February or March?


 
Looks like the low was about 12-14įF and a high of 80įF (probably yesterday when Sacramento hit 100į).  This was at about 9 am and it was 58į.

I picked up a zip line off of CraigsList for free the other day.  About 70' of line.  Here is where we first set it up:


 
Way down by the tree in the middle you can barely see the red trolley at the end of the tow strap.  The dark dirt in the shade is where we were bottoming out - a rise in the road.  So we set up in a different place where you start out on top of a boulder.  My son is a couple inches taller than me and probably has a reach of 4 or 5 inches higher than me.  Well, after lots of trials and rejiggering, we got it high enough.  He went down and dragged his feet a bit.  So I tried it.  Only I couldn't drag my feet.  The slack at the bottom slowed me a bit but not enough.  I hit the end of the cable attached to a long tow sling.  I was about 10' from the end tree, barely touching the ground - I should have let go at that point.  I swung out nearly horizontal (which stretched my back - felt great) and when I came back to vertical, the trolley broke apart.  No more zipping :-\

Lots to fix but a fun day not working too hard.
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SkyTrak 9038, Davis Little Monster backhoe, Case 16+4 Trencher, Home Built 42" capacity/32" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

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« Reply #426 on: July 15, 2019, 02:28:37 AM »
Update 7/14/2019:

Spent a couple weeks up on the property - 6/23-30 and 7/5-14.  First week I had a lot of winter cleanup and had to re-level the mill from the snow settling it down a few inches in some places.  I had a huge log on the mill all winter and I milled into a sill for the north-west section of wall.  A number of other cedar logs were milled into a selection of 4x8s, 4x10s (deck "boards"), 6x6 porch posts and 1x random siding. (no pictures)

The second week I had some help the first couple of days and installed the back floor joists (under the bedrooms) and took down some big cedars for the remaining two sills and siding. Spent a bit of time cleaning up the limbs from the trees.  Two truckloads of big branches for my neighbor's firewood pile.


 

 
When milling up the first big cedar, I found a 7/16 head, 6" lag bolt in the third pass on the log.  Using my little metal scanner, I found its buddy.  I dug down (chainsaw) a couple inches and tried to ratchet out the lag but it was already broken.  So had to dig further.


 
The second week, I finished milling up the second sill and installed both.  Then continued installing floor joist under the bathroom with some help.


 

 

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« Reply #427 on: July 15, 2019, 08:35:45 AM »
Wow, thatís some progress.  Good to see.  Whatís your goal for this summer?
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« Reply #428 on: July 15, 2019, 12:19:46 PM »
My goal and reality have taken very different paths...

So, I'm shooting for raising the frame, putting up rafters and the 2x roof deck.  Then I'll tarp it for the winter since that will be starting in 3 or so months... 

I really want to have continuous main beams (56' x 5) and have one good Ponderosa easily available.  Others are white pine that like to move a bit and may have to go with those.  But I also need 56 4x7x28' rafters.  I'm going to farm that out if I can find a sawyer local that has a supply of Ponderosa to save me a ton of time.  I'll check with the local mills but I doubt that they would consider my little run.

Also...  Got my water pump going.  The LCB (Linear Current Booster) lost its Magic Smoke while testing it so I'll have to hunt down a replacement.  Hooking it up direct to the solar panel let me fill my holding tank (330 gal) in a few hours.

Last Monday, when I finished the second to last sill, I was moving my monster log (28"x27') to the mill.  The SkyTrak was groaning and squealing picking it up.  I noticed a slight drip of hydraulic fluid from the boom.  Great, I thought, another seal to replace on a 12 foot ram :-\   When I set the boom down (sloping to the front of the SkyTrak), a quart of so of fluid ran out :-X  I was "lucky", just a blown hose.  However, need a set of crow's foot wrenches to get it out, but the "local" NAPA in the county closes early and opens late (7:30).  So Tuesday morning, headed 30 minutes down to NAPA for tools, 5 minutes in the store, back up the hill, 30 minutes to pull the hose, 60 minutes down to the hydraulic shop, 10 minutes at the shop, back up the hill, 15 minutes to install the hose and back in business by 11:30 am.  But, it could have been a lot worse!
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« Reply #429 on: July 17, 2019, 07:55:03 AM »
Love the progress. ;D And yes, DanG older machines and their hoses are a PITB. I ended up changing every one on my 580C backhoe. :D 

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« Reply #430 on: July 17, 2019, 06:34:14 PM »
That will be some major progress.  I sure hope it comes to fruition.  Those are some long beams.  The purlins in my house are 43í long.  I thought that was long.
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« Reply #431 on: July 23, 2019, 01:54:31 AM »
Update 7/22/2019:

I got my hands on some free retaining wall blocks.  I was looking for more "medium" sized for my backyard project but these turned out to be the BIG ones.  So, decided to add a foundation around my well.


   The lady giving them away said there were about 40 blocks.  I loaded all my truck could hold (weight wise) and installed 35 of them.  I'm going back to get more.  There was something like 80 blocks!  I'm going to add a wishing well-like structure on top of the blocks.  Probably make it out of cedar.

Speaking of cedar, I had a skinny 25' log that I cut into two.  That gave me two 4x10x12'-3" deck boards and four each 1x6, 1x8 and 1x10 wall boards 12'-3" long.  I lost three additional 1x10's that split lengthwise - must of fractured the log when I dropped the tree.

I also moved out the dry cedar so I could sticker the above fresh cut.  The top stack was cut the past month.  Cedar drys FAST out here.

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« Reply #432 on: July 25, 2019, 02:46:49 PM »
Update 7/24/2019:

Finished up the blocks so it looks like this now:


 
And this is sort of what I want to do:


 
There would be a solid wall all the way around to provide the support for the roof - maybe a 4-post design.  This would be buried under 8 to 10' of snow in the winter.
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« Reply #433 on: August 03, 2019, 01:44:13 PM »
I know that I posted this picture before but I don't remember where.  My little log arch I use to move timbers from my SkyTrak to inside my basement to stack.  Before:



I forgot to flip it over before the snow so...


 
I had a pair of the next size up bike frames (Stingray size) and a couple of good tires so I rebuilt it like this.  Hopefully not too tall/unstable:


Should roll bit easier.
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SkyTrak 9038, Davis Little Monster backhoe, Case 16+4 Trencher, Home Built 42" capacity/32" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

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« Reply #434 on: August 12, 2019, 11:58:28 AM »
That snow weight is incredible.   Great progress!  Keep 'em coming. 
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« Reply #435 on: August 12, 2019, 08:53:07 PM »
Mind blown. Sorry bout your timber caddy.

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« Reply #436 on: August 12, 2019, 09:10:48 PM »
Update 8/12/2019:

No pictures but brought up a big load of cement blocks and set them up for stickering my 28' 5x7 rafters.  Had to set it up outside my basement (west side seen here from 9/17 during a hail storm):


 
But still waiting for confirmation on a delivery date of my logs.  Hoping for Friday so I can have a productive weekend.

Also spent a bit of time chasing a plumbing leak in my bath house.  I think I got it.  I'll pressure test it when I go back up on Wednesday.
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SkyTrak 9038, Davis Little Monster backhoe, Case 16+4 Trencher, Home Built 42" capacity/32" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

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« Reply #437 on: August 17, 2019, 06:18:26 AM »
WOW!! Did that snow slide off a roof? But I did note the 8'-10' feet of snow too. I might get 3-4 feet at the most here.
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« Reply #438 on: August 17, 2019, 08:25:57 AM »
Wow Sir, you have been busy while I have not.  I am just catching up on my reading :P  and see where you have made progress as well as taking care of the mishaps.  Hopefully you will be able to get-r-done during these next non-snow months.  thumbs-up
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« Reply #439 on: August 18, 2019, 07:51:38 AM »
Nice progress! That timber cart is ingenuous! Might build something similar to get my timbers to the build site in the woods.


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