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Anyone on the Paleo Diet? (UPDATE 7/1/13)
« on: May 28, 2013, 12:32:37 PM »
I have done a good bit of reading about the Paleo Diet and I was wondering if anyone on here has tried it? I searched the Forum and only came up with only one mention of it. I am going to start on June 1st and go for 30 days. Basically, its a diet of meat, veggies, fruit, and nuts. No grain, beans, sugars, or processed foods.

By diet, I mean the actual definition: "what one person eats or consumes". Not the weight loss definition most people associate with the word.

I'll keep people updated on what happens regardless. Thanks!
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 01:45:23 PM »
No BEANS??  I gotta have my legumes. :)
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 05:24:51 PM »
I've pretty much eaten that way for 5 years. I also eat cheese, some yogurt and bacon which might be considered processed. I started it to lose weight and after about 5 days, I felt better than I had in years. My mood and energy levels were better.
Since you will be getting fewer carb's, don't be afraid of fat.
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 09:26:36 PM »
don't be afraid of fat.

DocB might hunt me down and...   :o
 
But I really believe in having no fear of REAL fats, give me butter over oleo/margarine/hydrogenizedgoodness any day.

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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 07:41:48 AM »
I also eat cheese, some yogurt and bacon which might be considered processed.
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Since you will be getting fewer carb's, don't be afraid of fat.

Bacon is completely acceptable for the Paleo Diet. Yogurt and cottage cheese are preferred over regular cheese, and even these are in small amounts. Good fats are what to have not the processed ones. I'm glad to hear that you feel better because that is what I'm aiming for. I would like to lose 10 pounds but I would rather feel great/energetic/healthy.
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 04:10:34 AM »
I've been on the Paleo Diet for the last 5 years.  As I was approaching my 40th birthday, I weighed 325 lbs and was pretty much incapable of much physical activity.  Through a business group, I got to know a local personal trainer/gym owner named Robb Wolf.  As you may know, Robb Wolf is now an international Paleo Diet star/guru/author/expert/etc.  http://robbwolf.com/

At the time, however, Robb was just the annoying CrossFit gym owner who was never satisfied with my food choices, (he did not even see the progress of me trading in my french fries for onion rings).  I steadfastly refused to try the paleo diet, and took every opportunity to argue against his "quasi science".   So for over a year, I put up with Robb constantly harassing me about how much better "my life" would be if I would just try the Paleo Diet for 30 days.  The physical work outs helped, and I did lose some weight, but overall my progress was less than stellar.  Then I started having the dreaded.....erectile dysfunction.  Well, as with most males, now I had a reason to go see my doctor, because that was a "problem" that could motivate me to get help.  My doctor immediately said that ED is often times the first indicator of vascular disease, ie heart disease, (which runs in my family).  So he performed a full physical and ordered a full blood panel.  Later that day, he, (the doctor himself) called me and told me that he needed to see me before the end of the day.  That is never a good sign.  So it turned out that basically every medical marker I had was pretty much in the , "You are about to die range".  Blood pressure, blood sugar, triglycerides, cholesterol, you name it, and it was baaaad.  He told me that if I wanted to reach age 50, I needed to change my entire lifestyle.   He recommended that I go vegetarian, but I would rather die young than go there, so I instead told him that I was going to go on this "Paleo Diet" that my personal trainer had been harassing me about. 

So I went to Robb, and he promised me that if I did everything he told me to, that he could guarantee that I would both feel better, lose weight and that my body chemistry would reset itself to "healthy levels".  So I did it.  Man, that first 30 days was rough.  Going strict Paleo is a necessary evil, as you need to get your body past the sugar withdrawal stage.  You will feel irritable, tired, and slothlike for the first two to three weeks.  After that, however, all I can say is that it felt like a "fog" was lifted from my life.  I actually felt smarter.  My memory improved, I could process information better, and I found that my attitude/outlook greatly improved.  My wife, who was not very happy about my diet change, (as I do most of the cooking), actually became my greatest supporter as she saw the huge improvement the Paleo Diet made in my life. 

89 days after having started the Paleo Diet, I had the blood tests redone.  The results were rather amazing.  Every one of my medical markers had returned to the "normal" range.  Even my doctor said he had never seen such a turn around that quickly.  As a bonus, I had also lost 35 lbs without ever going hungry.  When Robb later wrote his first book on the Paleo Diet,   http://robbwolf.com/shop/products/the-paleo-solution-the-original-human-diet/
he incorporated my story and blood tests as a case study to help prove how the Paleo Diet really can change your body's chemistry for the better.  (I'm Jorge in the book)

On Robb's website, he has an article named the "8 Shades of Paleo".  I strongly recommend that you read this as it really gives a good explanation of the different "levels" of Paleo that different people "buy into".  I wholeheartedly recommend that you go strict paleo diet for at least the first 30 days, (90 is better).  Then you can assess your progress and your goals.  You can then start to add in some different foods, and see how you do.  I pretty much follow the 80/20 plan.  I try to eat very well, mostly just paleo 80% of the time.  Then for 20% I pretty much eat whatever I want, (but I always stay gluten free and watch my portions).  One of my loves of the Paleo Diet, is that it is really more of a Lifestyle.  The goal is for you to educate yourself about what works and doesn't work for you.  I use to watch Robb eat a hand full of lunch meat for a meal.  No sauce, no cheese, just dry meat, and he was happy about it.  Me, I did that for a long time, but it was not "fun" and I did not like it much.  So I experimented and learned what I could add to my diet, without it trashing my goals.  For me, a great meal is to toast an organic corn tortilla, unbuttered, in a pan, with some shredded cheese and lunchmeat on top of it.  When the tortilla is toasted, and the cheese melted, I fold it in half and eat it like a taco.  So I get a little dairy and a few carbs.  Overall, it is a very good meal and one that is very satisfying to me and one that still allows me to lose weight.  I also grow most of my own fruits and vegies, and buy the best and leanest meats I can afford.  I also make my own marinades, so that I can give myself as many options with flavors as possible with the meats that I cook.  Avoiding sweets is pretty easy for me, but my downfall is Ice Cream.  I can eat a whole 1/2 gallon in one sitting if I let myself.  So I buy some of the small single cup servings each month, and that is my big treat.  Again, Paleo purists will say this is horrible, but it works for me. 

I also realized that going to the gym was really not my "thing".  I found that with the weight loss combined with the increase in strength and endurance, I could go back to my old physical activities of firewood cutting, olympic fencing and gardening, (things I very much enjoy).  So they are now my work out routine, and as a bonus, I get valuable firewood and produce as a result.

So my advice:  Listen to and learn from those who have been on the diet and from the 'gurus' and experts that produce all of the different resource materials out there, (there is good information is almost all of it).  However, remember that no one knows you and your body better than yourself, so don't be afraid to mix and match different approaches and different ideas to find the unique combination that fits your needs and goals .  Try doing the strict Paleo Diet for at least the first 30 days.  Then if you are like me, and find that you need to add a few things to your food choices to make the diet sustainable long term, experiment to see what foods you can add, (and in what portions), that will still allow you to obtain your goals. 

Today I weigh 222 lbs, and feel great.  I am off all medications and seriously have not felt this good since my late 20s.  The Paleo Diet/Lifestyle was and is a great choice for me, and I hope that you find that it works just as well for you. 

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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2013, 04:36:16 AM »
I'm thinking that a "paleo" diet might be a very different thing depending on where your stone age man came from?

American Indians had a very different diet to a Pacific Islander, or NZ Maori, or Australian Aborigine?

But the idea of reducing the modern processed foods, and eating more of the stuff that a cave man would recognise as food makes good sense. But I think you can choose from a pretty wide range of stuff.

If you are a stone age guy living on a Sth Pacific Island then fish, coconuts, taro and mangos might be your diet, because that's what's there to eat.

If you are an African tribesman, it's totally different.

Some place else? Different foods?

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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2013, 08:16:51 AM »
SLawyer Dave,that is quite the story!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Good for you.
I know of an old guy that has heart problems. Doctor wanted him to go to a gym to work out. He kinda does not like to be around people so he brought a new buck saw and saws up his wood by hand. He has a walk in basement and saws in the winter too.
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2013, 08:29:09 AM »
SLawyer Dave said it all.  I just wanted to drop 20 lbs.  I got the above mentioned book, embraced the theory, and quickly lost 20 lbs.  It's pretty basic:  quit eating cereal, bread, potatoes.  Eat more meat, veggies and fruit.
Exercise or keep active.  Probably what the cave men/women did.
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2013, 11:18:08 AM »
SLawyer, I am most impressed that you trained with Robb in The Beginning. By The Beginning, I mean before he became famous about the Paleo Diet. Dakota, my hats off to you as well. 20 pounds is two bowling balls taken off!

I am also and 80/20 guy, mainly because my wife is French and loves to cook so some of that heavy cream based food leeches into my diet. I have been on the Paleo Diet for 7 days now. I haven't felt the tiredness hit yet but I know its coming. I haven't read Robb's book yet but I'm sure I will. I follow his blog. For anyone else looking to try Paleo, I would recommend getting a Paleo cookbook and reading the blogs online. The cookbook will give you the basics of Paleo plus all these very tasty recipes! Like I said, my wife is French and even she likes them. Also, got nomnompaleo.com for ideas on recipes for normal people to cook.

No BEANS??  I gotta have my legumes. :)
You can have beans, if they mean that much to you. Just try cutting out all the bread and grains. Its a lifestyle, not a fad so it has to fit with who you are. 

I am 5'11" and weighed 181.7 pounds on June 1 @ 7:30am (Post morning shower).
This morning I weighed 177.6 pounds (June 7 @ 7:30am). Thats 4 pounds in 7 days!
 
The kicker is I haven't done a lick of exercise all week. I wanted to focus on my nutrition first and understand how my eating habits have really effected me (heavy sugars and high processed foods). I sit at a desk for most of the day, so I'm not burning extra calories by chopping wood and such. Tomorrow begins week 2, which is when I will add light exercise to my daily routine. I plan on doing push ups, sit ups, and jumping jacks, with some light cardio thrown in a few times.

Thanks for the help and tips!

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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2013, 11:22:23 AM »
If you are a stone age guy living on a Sth Pacific Island then fish, coconuts, taro and mangos might be your diet, because that's what's there to eat.

If you are an African tribesman, it's totally different.

Some place else? Different foods?

Ian

Ian, you are correct that different places would have different foods for being a caveman. The key here is that each the cavemen didn't eat grains, bread, processed sugars, and the like. They all ate meat/fish, fruits, and veggies that were native to their area. Also, if you wanted to give this a go, Ian you would have to give up Vegimite  ;)
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2013, 03:32:03 PM »
Great post Kilgrosh,
I like Dave's input and it seems right to shake off heavy sugars and processed foods. Ian hit it right on the head with his take on early mans habits of eating, I think Marmite on toast might slide through under Dave's 80/20 plan. Jeff I also like beans and rice and need them.
Every post here has shed positive light on the Paleo Diet and I think I will take a closer look on Robb Wolf's diet and give it a try at some point.
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I did not see beer (alcohol specifically as not allowed) or chips and salsa on the lists of ok stuff, it may fall under SLawywer Dave's escape clause 80/20 I would hope it fly's.
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2013, 10:08:43 PM »

I did not see beer (alcohol specifically as not allowed) or chips and salsa on the lists of ok stuff, it may fall under SLawywer Dave's escape clause 80/20 I would hope it fly's.

This may well be the first time I have ever in my adult life received FREE advice from a high end Lawyer, solid advice indeed, hope it's not the last.

Well, what I can tell you is that Robb use to help organize "parties" at the gym, where one of the main features was how to drink Paleo Approved Alcohol Concoctions, (avoid the sugary diluting agents that don't help you get drunk faster).  As to beer, just make sure it is "wheat free", and then drink up.   ;D

Chips and salsa are one of my favorite snacks.  Just make sure the chips are gluten free and spring the extra few cents to get the ones with no trans-fats.  I also use such chips in taco salad and meatloaf.  Again, at least for me, the real issue is portions and frequency.  I probably buy one bag of chips a month, and keep them in a air tight container to prevent them from getting stale.

As to "advice", just remember the old adage, "Advice is worth what you pay for it".   :D

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2013, 11:43:42 PM »
SLawyer Dave,
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2013, 02:49:34 PM »
... Keep your maisheet close hauled and your lee rail awash

Thats the only way I race!
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2013, 05:05:05 PM »
No wheat beer?? That's my favorite kind!
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet? (UPDATE 6/14/13)
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2013, 04:46:04 PM »
So its been two weeks since I started the Paleo Diet. What I have found out is that I don't crave bread, pastas, or grains at all. I CRAVE SUGAR IN ALL ITS FORMS!  :'( I broke down twice this week and binged on some frozen yogurt, the kind that you get to serve yourself and add all the toppings you want.

I gained 2 pounds this week, but I think thats due to my body adjusting to the food intake. I eat a lot more food than I probably should. I'll update again on Saturday.
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet? (UPDATE 6/14/13)
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2013, 08:55:58 PM »
For the first month, your weight is really not important.  Remember, eat when you are hungry.  Make one pot meals.  Cook your meat with your vegies.  Cook large amounts, as you will find that you will eat more than usual, so you will want left overs.  Almost every meal I made during the first months of my Paleo Diet included massive quantities of onions, mushrooms and garlic.  Even if I bbq'd a steak, I would saute onions and/or mushrooms to put over the top.  You are looking for the vegies to help take the place of carbs, (pasta, potatoes, etc), to fill up volume in your stomach to help you feel "full".  Rob used to say that if you are just eating meet and low carb vegies, you really can't eat too much.  For me, that advice worked, as even though I was not "happy" eating such a strict Paleo Diet, I could not say I was hungry.  If I allowed myself to get hungry however, then the sugar craving was that much worse.  So make sure you keep gluten free jerky, lunch meat, and fresh vegies available throughout the day to snack on.  Like I keep saying, that first month is terrible, but really focus on keeping your carb intake as low as you can and within 3 weeks or so, the craving will really calm down.   So again, don't worry about how MUCH you eat, just WHAT you eat.

Here are some recipes and links that I was posting about and using when I was first learning to live with a paleo diet.  I hope they help.  http://www.slimmingthoughts.blogspot.com/

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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet? (UPDATE 6/14/13)
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2013, 01:58:17 PM »
I did remove all of the sweets and the like from my fridge,, which means my fridge is really empty right now. I have found that if I cook a London Broil on Sunday and cut it into cubes, I get a simple snack and salad mixer for about four days. I'm taking each day as that...just a day. Yesterday, I had no sweets. Today, I've had no sweets so far and I'm pretty full going into my afternoon cravings time. My goal for this week is to make it four days without sweets. I already stopped eating bread and grains which wasn't that big of a problem.

I know weight is not the goal but the scale is a tangible item that I can focus on at the moment to get me through the first few weeks. Soon I will convert from the scale to number of push ups, pull ups, and sit ups I can complete.

I'll check out the blog and the recipes. Thanks!
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Re: Anyone on the Paleo Diet? (UPDATE 6/22/13)
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2013, 09:19:38 AM »
This week was a good week for me. I made it 5 days without having a sweet/sugar item! I still have to get through today but its a win in my book. The cravings are going away slowly and I tend to sleep better at night. I'm down another 2 pounds; I'm hovering around 175.8-176.3 depending on the time of day. Don't worry, there is only one more update coming and that is next weekend. Have a great weekend all!
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