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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2013, 08:39:07 AM »
All I have for a welder, is a cheapo 110v wire feed from Home Depot that cost about $400. It can supposedly weld 1/4" but I think that's pushing it.

Do you think it would be good for welding the 1/8" thick steel of the extension?  I'm worried it wouldn't be due to the heavy logs banging around on the bed. I think what I may do is tack everything together with my toy welder, then have a welder friend come over with his equipment and weld it together for me.

Any opinions regarding this?

That welder will do fine for what you will be welding, assuming that you know how to weld well.  I have a similar machine and I have welded all sorts of much heavier material.  Just make sure you get even pentration on both pieces of metal.  If you think you need to, you can make multiple passes to increase the weld size. 
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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2013, 04:41:55 PM »
I got a quote from the steel supply store. 

1/8" thick 2x6 is $105, whereas 3/16" is $156. 

They only come in 24' lengths, so 24' it is!  8)


My question is, is there any reason I should NOT go with 3/16"?  I know WM uses 1/8" thickness but I am thinking that 3/16" would be better, as it is a bit thicker/sturdier. 
I'd like to go a little heavy on the thickness because I may try to add a "trailer kit" to this extension down the road, then I'd have a mobile LT15 with a 24' track on it.   ;)

If the only negative to going thicker is cost, then I'll go with the 3/16" thickness. 


I will order 3 of the 24' long sections, using 2 for the tracks, and 1 to be cut up into smaller lengths that I'll use for cross bracing.  I'll certainly not get to this project over the next few weeks but I may purchase the steel soon.  I figure it will probably cost right around the same price for the 24' extension by building it myself, than it would for a 7' section from WM. 
I just need to make sure I don't screw it up  :D
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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2013, 08:34:25 PM »
I'd go heavier, it just costs a little more. Like Philngruvy said, you can weld with the little welder, just make sure you are getting penetration. If you are really worried, then tack it and have your friend finish it like you said. Can't wait to see the first 38' white oak on there. ;D
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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2013, 09:17:13 PM »
 
Can't wait to see the first 38' white oak on there. ;D
Dang it Dave!  I'm gonna NIGHT MARES tonight just thinking about that! 

I don't mess with those big boy species, I stick with the pine  :D

At least I have a way to get the log to the mill now.....
 

 
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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2013, 09:21:55 PM »
Ouch!  I just used the calc's to figure log weight of a 38' white oak, right around 5-6k lbs.   :o 

I don't think I'll be moving one of those  :D
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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2013, 09:40:14 PM »
I sawed up load of 29' wo last month.  The 16" tips I could pick up with the L48. The 20" tips I winched in front of the mill and used the loading arms and the L48. :D
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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2013, 10:05:00 PM »
As Philngruvy said that welder will be fine for that project. Now if you was making a woods trailer and wanted to put almost a cord of wood on it,well,that would be a differant story. I use to have one like that,but started to get more and more into toys and needed a bigger one.
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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2013, 11:00:39 PM »
I use to have one like that,but started to get more and more into toys and needed a bigger one.
Ya that's my problem Ray.  I really could use a new welder with more "capacity"

I'll give it a go with this welder, I just worry about the heavy weight of huge logs on the mill.  I am careful not to "drop" a log onto the mill, but you can't help it when your turning a large log, it eventually just comes crashing down after being turned far enough. 
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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2013, 11:18:43 PM »
If your welder is rated to 1/4" you should be fine.  I welded my headrig with a 105 amp welder that was only supposed to go up to 1/8".  Most of my material was 3/16"!  I wouldn't recommend this, infact, I might have to rebuilt a few pieces now that I have a Hobart 210.  But if your welder says it goes to 1/4" you'll be perfectly fine with 3/16 or 1/4.  If you ever want to upgrade your welder look for a reconditioned Hobart Handler.  I bought my 210 from Amazon last month for $550 free shipping and it was literally new.  I LOVE this welder  8)

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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2013, 11:27:23 PM »
For $50 extra I'd use the 3/16" in a heart beat!

Many years ago my brother-in-law welded up some 2" x 5" x 1/8" stock to hold a small lathe for me.
He did this with a small Miller mig 110 unit. It was supposed to weld up to 5/16" if memory serves.
That bench is strong as HE--!
 
You should v-grove at joints to help with the penetration.

 But, unless you're a Experienced welder. I'd just tack it up and let you're buddy finish it with his equipment.
You can swap favors, later.

A 30" log's HEAVY, and you're safety's on the LINE.

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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2013, 09:28:21 PM »
If your welder is rated to 1/4" you should be fine.  I welded my headrig with a 105 amp welder that was only supposed to go up to 1/8".  Most of my material was 3/16"!  I wouldn't recommend this, infact, I might have to rebuilt a few pieces now that I have a Hobart 210.  But if your welder says it goes to 1/4" you'll be perfectly fine with 3/16 or 1/4.  If you ever want to upgrade your welder look for a reconditioned Hobart Handler.  I bought my 210 from Amazon last month for $550 free shipping and it was literally new.  I LOVE this welder  8)


I like mine too :)
 

 
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« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2013, 09:37:09 PM »
How thick can you weld with the Hobart? 

I'd like to upgrade, someday.  ;D
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« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2013, 09:59:50 PM »
Piston,concerned about your welds? Weld 2 scarp pieces together,take a big hammer and whale on the son ,well you know what I mean. If they don't come apart,you are all set.
I brought a Lincoln,uses 220. I have my on a dolly with about 50 of thick and I mean thick wire. It told me in the manual what size. Think I paid $100 for that 10 years ago. I do all my welding outside. I just unwrap what ever amount I need. I built a cabinet right on the dolly. I never finished it,but it has one draw and all my cutting wheels and grinding wheels are on a bolt on the bottom. My clamps are there and eveything I need. If someone pulled in and needed my welder all they would have to do is wheel it out and go. Everything I need is on that dolly. There is also a 110 with 2 outlets with 50 feet of wire on that too.
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Re: LT 15 extension from Woodmizer or custom made from fabricator?
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2013, 12:00:11 PM »

Ya that's my problem Ray.  I really could use a new welder with more "capacity"



Well, if that's the case let us spend some of your money for you :D 

Really, sell the smaller one, and get a 210-ish......you will never be sorry you did this. My Millermatic 210 has just been flat out awesome.
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