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Author Topic: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill (ok! it was actually sweetgum...)  (Read 3266 times)

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I'm just now getting around to post it, but we were given a red oak about a month ago. The tree had been on the ground about a year and a half, (wind damage), but we still got a lot of beautiful lumber out of it. We cut it all with Woodmaster C Sharp 10 degree blades, and they did an amazing job! We cut everything into live-edge 1" stuff and got it stacked and stickered in the shed. It was all that little 18HP Kohler could do when she was cutting through the 20" heart of some of those! Definitely need to upgrade... anyone want to give us a 25HP diesel to stick up there? ;) The butt log had a bad spot all the way through, (heart rot?), so we didn't even mill it. It'll make some great firewood, and maybe even some hardwood charcoal.

And we decided that the JD 5303, (64 HP open cab), was probably big enough for us, but we really wanted a loader. So we put it on the market and sold it, and then just happened to find a great deal on another tractor. It's a 2001 Kubota M110, (110HP), with a full cab and a loader! Definitely an upgrade... And even though it isn't in the pics, we've got a set of forks for the loader, too.

Now we just need to do a bunch of work on the mill and the log arch before Fall!



It was all that trailer wanted and then some!

 

  

  
 
Because it's so hot right now, we milled the lumber after dark, stacked it on the trailer as it came off the mill, and then stuck the trailer in the barn. By the time we got to stacking it the next day, it had already started to mildew.
  

And then this is a shot of a small piece that Dad ran through the planer just to see how it would come out. that is truly some gorgeous wood!


This will make log handling SOOOO much easier!
 

  
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 02:33:09 PM »
I swear that looks an awful lot like sweetgum  :-\
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2013, 02:42:34 PM »
I was just thinking "them Ms boys' red oak bark sure looks a lot different than arkansas red oak". Sure looks elmy to me
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2013, 03:08:16 PM »
I was just thinking "them Ms boys' red oak bark sure looks a lot different than arkansas red oak". Sure looks elmy to me

Not sure why... bark looks pretty much just like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bark_red_oak_8777.jpg
Sweetgum looks pretty similar: http://www.carolinanature.com/trees/list4707.jpg

But it was pretty obvious it was oak when you bit into it with the chainsaw. The smell is pretty unmistakable. And does the grain in a sweetgum look similar to that one?

We definitely do some things a little different down here, but I didn't think it was that far off! :)
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2013, 03:36:04 PM »
Rub a piece of steel on it. Then come back and look at it 30 min later. If its red oak it'll turn black
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2013, 04:08:29 PM »
It may be oak, but it is not Red oak either.  I will have to get my tree book out.  Funny, it kinda looks like my "Mossy Oak" hunting shirt. 
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 04:56:47 PM »
If you've still got the butt log you might as well mill it too. Some of the best grade boards will be there, just mill until you get hit rot.

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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 07:13:11 PM »
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Hackberry Jake that is interesting.  steel black in 30 mins.

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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 07:58:34 PM »
The oak turns black. not the steel  ;D
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 08:37:01 PM »
that board sure don't look like red oak to me . Are ther any ray flecks in the quarter sawn boards.

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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2013, 11:05:04 PM »
It is very, very sweetgummy looking to me too.   
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2013, 11:43:12 PM »
Bark looks like white oak, but a lot of sap wood for WO. board looks nothing like oak that I'm familiar with, but the smell IS unmistakable. if it smells like oak, then it's Oak.  ;)
Rub a piece of steel on it. Then come back and look at it 30 min later. If its red oak it'll turn black
30 min. and black would be showing on the other side of the board.  :D :D 2-3 minutes will do it.
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 04:22:38 AM »
I have to be on the sweet gum wagon. However I have been known to be wrong before.
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 07:07:55 AM »
I can't speak for sweetgum, because I have never come across it around here.   :D :D

But, when I first saw the picture of the logs and then especially the wood itself, I would have say that it doesn't look like red oak to me.  The bark is more like white oak, but the grain of the wood doesn't seem to fit either white or red.  Even still, I have been known to be wrong more often than not when it comes to identifying wood.   :) 

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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 07:45:09 AM »
If I had a hundred dollars to bet, I would put it on sweetgum. 
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 08:00:25 AM »
I have never cut red oak on my mill,just for firewood. But the red oak I have in Maine, the ends don't look like that.
I have no idea about sweet gum,but as WDH said,if I had a hundred dollars to bet,I would bet it was not red oak.
I guess I have to find that member that was wrapping up something in $100 biils.
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2013, 08:17:10 AM »
Most importantly, you got to spend time with your dad, doing something you both enjoy.  Also, you have a nice tractor and made beautiful lumber.   The more you mill the better you will get at log/lumber ID.  I wouldn't ever wager against Danny and Jake  :)
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2013, 08:39:32 AM »
You put it very well fishpharmer because the sawing experience is far more important than the species.  I read this thread immediately after it was posted and instantly "thought" Sweetgum. 

In the ongoing Sweetgum thread I commented a couple of times about the beauty of Sweetgum lumber although I do not have any pictures.  If these logs are indeed Sweetgum, the picture of the planed lumber verifies the beauty of the wood. The different colors will range from yellow, brown, gray, and even sometimes have black streaks.
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2013, 09:16:03 AM »
Most importantly, you got to spend time with your dad, doing something you both enjoy.


That's what it's all about right there :) 
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Re: Free Red Oak and new addition to the sawmill
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2013, 10:35:53 AM »
Well, you all may be right. The guy we got it from said it was oak; it looked pretty close to red oak; we took his word for it. Unfortunately, it had been on the ground for a while and he had already cut the top up for firewood, so there weren't any leaves or acorns/gumballs to look at. I'll be out of town this weekend, but I'll get Dad to try the steel bar trick and I'll let you know what happens.

The point, though, is that we got some free (not pine) logs, got to make some sawdust, and now we have a tractor big enough to help us handle the big trees that are coming this Fall!  ;D ;D

Guess it's a good thing we aren't in the lumber business, though! lol
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