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mix & match stickers
« on: July 27, 2013, 10:06:56 PM »
just wondering, will dry pine stickers cause any problems with other lumber, in particular douglas fir?
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Re: mix & match stickers
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 10:22:19 PM »
not sure about df, but I have mixed syp with oak, all dry and have had no complaints, course I gave the stickers to them, it seems that some folks are more picky, not sure of the validity to their clam, it could very well be a valid point, I am of the opinion that dry is dry,  david
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Re: mix & match stickers
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 10:41:55 PM »
I make all my stickers from bug killed and lightening killed pine. Never had a problem with sticker stain on anything..
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Re: mix & match stickers
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2013, 02:50:47 AM »
It should be fine, 99% of the time it is, and DF is a pretty forgiving wood to dry.

Dry is the main thing to reduce the chances of staining.

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Re: mix & match stickers
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2013, 06:13:46 AM »
Does anyone have a particular size they prefer for their stickers?
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2013, 06:31:43 AM »
Acro,I've always used 1" stickers all being a byproduct of edging boards.They should be dry no bark.My standard length is 4' makes it easy to calculate BF in a pile.In a damp humid climate 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 stickers would help but you loose space. Frank C.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2013, 06:37:39 AM »
I do mine at 1" x 1".

With the swingblade mill you tend to make stickers from the edgings, as you take out the taper in the log. So if you are cutting 1" boards, you make 1" stickers, it's just simpler that way.

Others have different preferences, and may go with 3/4 x 1" or 3/4 x 3/4 depending on how they are making them.

Much more than 1" and you cover too much of the wood surface and increase the risk of staining. Less than 3/4" and you restrict the airflow through the stack too much.

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Re: mix & match stickers
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2013, 08:03:04 AM »
I also prefer 1" x 1". 
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2013, 08:42:27 AM »
mine are all planed to 3/4 thick by roughly 1 1/4 wide, that way when stickering there is no mistaking the side that goes down.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2013, 08:45:29 AM »
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Re: mix & match stickers
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2013, 02:21:39 PM »
I typically make stickers 3/4 x 3/4 because anything larger, causes laminar air flow between the courses vs turbulent air flow.  Turbulant air flow pulls the most moisture from the air and deposits it off the lumber.  Laminar air flow redeposit the water on the lumber at another location, causing an area for mold growth.

Based on drying df, you can use just about anything.  Make sure your piles though are on the narrow side, no wider than 42".  This will cause the air to enter and leave the stack of lumber quicker and will help, especially if you have low air flow conditions.  This was true with a customer I worked with about a month ago.  He was building 6' wide packs and couldn't understand why when he kiln dried, the centers were wet of the pack and the edges were dry.
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Re: mix & match stickers
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2013, 04:54:58 PM »
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Laminar air flow redeposit the water on the lumber at another location, causing an area for mold growth.

never been a problem where I live...

semi-arid with lots of wind. lumber air dries very well here, at least the cottonwood I have cut up so far does. hate to admit what the sun does to it though  :)
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2013, 09:38:49 PM »
I have less mold and mildew problems with a 1" sticker and a 4' stack than with a 3/4" sticker for mold prone species like pine, poplar, and maple.  Just my experience.  This has been a difficult year for air drying with all the rain and high humidity. 
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Re: mix & match stickers
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2013, 07:28:36 AM »
My stickers which are 3/4" by 3/4" are all made from dunnage boards I got at the local lumber yards .They are some type pine maybe fir they use to ship bundles of lumber with .Cut out on a table saw it comes out about even .A barrel full of stickers and a barrell full of sawdust .

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Re: mix & match stickers
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2013, 09:51:55 AM »
I buy bundles of furring strips to use as stickers when drying maple. Everything else gets stacked on whatever I got handy. The furring strips are pine.   
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