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Author Topic: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..  (Read 2258 times)

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A famous screen name and myself had a little fun and put this video together.. :D

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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 01:28:23 PM »
I enjoyed that, a good day in the woods. In all fairness to the Poulan, it was at a considerable disadvantage due to power and chain restraints but is very typical of the average consumer purchase. I currently have three saws, two Homelites and a Husky, with a total investment of $75. Just need a fireplace so I have an excuse to fire them up, neighbours here would complain.
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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 05:00:37 PM »
Thanks for watching and the comment....of course that's the point.. :) It is about the bang per buck assuming the skills are there... 8)
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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 05:38:24 PM »
Cool video, I'm still looking for a big old saw but how about some safety glasses please
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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2013, 07:12:52 PM »
New guy here...thanks for the vid with the old saws.  That was cool.  I`m just starting a project using 2 JD 80EV`s to hopefully have one good runner when I get done. 
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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2013, 07:35:04 PM »
That awesome. Looks like you and Spike had a good time. I wish I coulda seen that root ball flop!!
Next time bring extra batteries  :D
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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2013, 08:59:10 PM »
Nice job Walter .Those old classics came from a bygone era when things were built to last almost forever .Perhaps a time that will never again be repeated .

Those old saws aren't for everyone but they bring delight to a few of us I'm sure, myself included . ;D

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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2013, 10:32:09 PM »
Thought maybe I'd see an old Homelite EZ-6 showing up at that sugar shack. Recall those days, and thought it was a pretty good saw at the time. Then the EZ auto and super EZ auto showed up. Macs too, but never ran a Mac much myself.
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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2013, 04:08:47 AM »
Oh some of them are boat anchors but then again they came from an era of a lot of boat anchors . Later maybe mid 60's there were some that can hold their own with a modern chainsaw .

Unfortunatly poor old Poulan takes the rap for inexpensive under powered saws .At one time they had some very powerfull pro models that can still be impressive .Most people have never seen them .

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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2013, 04:15:42 AM »
McCulloch and Homelite were once the leaders in the better grade of saws .Their demise can about be parrelled to the US auto industry with comparrison to Honda and Toyota .

Mac and Homie died on the vine simpley because they did not  modernize their designs until it was basically too late .They became complacent ,too comforatable because of the past of being top dogs .

On that though they themselves made some less than desirable saws .

It's a history lesson in a way of how things can go awry .If you don't mind the store in enough time you won't have a store to mind .

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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2013, 04:35:38 AM »
Those old brand names where just bought up to be able to put a "label" on some cheap mass produced saw. A bit like Black and Decker tools. I have an old (~50 year?) B&D electric drill, made in England. Weighs a ton. Has an 18" bar out the side side so you can hold on to it and not have it twist out of your hands. It's a 2 hand drill anyway, or it mounts in it's own drill press.  Compare that to any modern B&D branded tool, and they are junk. It's the equivalent of those old saws, weighs a ton, no soft starts etc. But if you need to drill a 1/2" hole in a piece of steel, it will do it.

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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 09:20:43 PM »
To me, if you know how to fix them and your body will take it there's nothing wrong with old quality. New to me is 1980's anyway. I've got a Mac 1-50 that's as old as me that is still a runner. But then I'm still farming with tractors older than me too! My body is just not up to lugging those old heavy saws uphill all day anymore though.

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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 11:16:56 PM »
Unfortunatly poor old Poulan takes the rap for inexpensive under powered saws .At one time they had some very powerfull pro models that can still be impressive .Most people have never seen them .
It wasn't all that long ago when Poulan had a good lineup with the 8500 leading the pack. Mid 1980's before Electrolux bought out the company around 1987, Poulan was one of the last of the 100% North American product when they merged with Weed Eater.
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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2013, 04:07:32 AM »
Poulan did have some pretty good saws at one time .For example the S-25 series .

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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2013, 08:14:15 AM »
Very good video,with much truth.I run mostly old saws two of my favorites are 031,and 041 Stihl.Also a Sacks Dolmar that is one fine saw.Never put down old men and old machines they put out.Frank C.
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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2013, 11:41:59 AM »
Walter and Bob, that was a real nice visit with you two "in person" for the first time and the excellent demo you put on there.
 
The video makes the distance between Manitoba and New York State a whole lot shorter...... :)
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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2013, 02:56:42 PM »
I second that! Thanks for putting up this video and comparison.  It is a no brainer for me.  I have a newer Husky 372 XPW (bought new in 2005), but I prefer the older saws, as they dont hardly weigh any more than the newer pro saws of similar displacement, and they are real go getters.  I think my Promac 700 is pound for pound the same as the husky, except it has better balance, and it has more grunt than the Husky in big wood. Not many saws make a sweeter note than a 10-series Mac, IMO.  Poulan had some very nice saws in their day, as did Pioneer.  Always good to see old iron brought back to service and put to good use!  I have several 10-10's the PM700 and I recently came across an SP81E.  Cant wait to get that thing going!  the 82cc 10 series were some great saws.  If i have a particularly large job I do keep the 075 at the ready for when the occasion requires :)
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Re: A case for old Vintage Homie & Mac saws vs. new home owner grade saws..
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2013, 09:33:20 PM »
And, you can amass a sinfully large collection for cheap.

 

 

About half shown. ::)
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2013, 09:42:55 AM »
Yeah, they do have an angry snarl to them.  :) You're right about the weight. Most folks equate old with heavy, but that's not the case with these saws. That ProMac 60 I was running was light and hooked up pretty good. A run off against a Husky 555 would be interesting.

The 82cc saws in this family are a favorite of mine. I've had a PM850 for several years, and just yesterday scored a PM800 in great shape. 24", full wrap and it's a fairly light and well balanced package.

Not many saws make a sweeter note than a 10-series Mac, IMO.  Poulan had some very nice saws in their day, as did Pioneer.  Always good to see old iron brought back to service and put to good use!  I have several 10-10's the PM700 and I recently came across an SP81E.  Cant wait to get that thing going!  the 82cc 10 series were some great saws.
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2013, 11:34:27 AM »
And, you can amass a sinfully large collection for cheap.

 

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What Poulan model  is that? Love a good sounding Poulan ripping wood.They have a distinct exhaust pulse like Mopars. ;D


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