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Cguignard

Got it done, cut it all down made a dump run with the brush.  Turned out to be black walnut 8).  But logs are quite heavy drug them out of the drive way with my one ton and will have to wait for my buddys farther to come over with his Kobota to load on to a trailer 8) and take it to my mill.  In the past I have used a few small hardwoods poles as ramps to load on to my trailer, but I think these hard woods will squish my trailer. 
We ended up getting a bucket truck and what I thought was going to be a 2 to 3 hr job turned in to an all day job, lot of cutting branches small and lowering them to the ground. My thought for doing this work was to have as few uncontrolled drops as possible. All in all everything went great, pulling brush er broke a light bulb on the outdoor flood light.  Looking forward to getting it to the mill and sawing it up, 

 
we are cutting one of the last branches that we had been using to lower other branches. I am in the bucket.

Magicman

Sounds like a safe, successful, but expensive take down.  Now lets make some lumber.   8)
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thecfarm

How much was the bucket truck? Probably from that place on Center street,Auburn. Jim's? Been by it 1000's of times. Good job. I may have an old maple tree that may need some help,power lines.
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Cguignard

That's the place we got it from, I think my buddy paid 165$ for the day rent plus .30$ a mile, plus diesel. 

thecfarm

That's alot cheaper than having someone else do it.
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Cguignard

Yeah, he rented the truck and I cut it for him, I am on vacation this week and I shot my deer last Saturday, so my schedule for the week opened up.

JohnM

Quote from: Cguignard on November 22, 2013, 08:31:23 AMTurned out to be black walnut 8).
Shows what we know don't it! ::) ;D :D  (Who was the fool that said red maple? ::) :-[)  Congrats on the rare walnut and the deer!  Make sure to show us what you make out of the walnut. :)
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Cguignard

I can't call anyone a fool, I have been wrong more than once, but it has been a good week, except for derailing my mill this morning  :'( and I wasn't even sawing.

beenthere

Will you share with us the clue that it was walnut? Interested to learn what it was... a pic or two would be good too.
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Cguignard

Well I wish I could tell you that I am an expert on tree identification but my buddies farther told him what it was, and I just followed a long.  Never seeing a walnut in Maine I was thinking that it might be a chestnut, but the bark looked too dark, As soon as I cut one branch and saw the white sap wood and dark brown heart,  8) Walnut!

thecfarm

I derailed mine a couple times. I have a manual mill too. My hold down for the logs has a flat handle about 6 inches long. When pushing if the ones I am not using are in the way,the wheels will move it out of the way. But on the way back is when things go wrong.  ::)  And by the time I see what is about to happen I cannot stop the derailment in time.
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Cguignard

When I am pulling back is when I have derailed the most piece of bark or build up sawdust what a pain, But best I can tell is the wind blew the carriage down the track and it bounced off the rails when it hit the stops, I went to push it back to get something from under it and it tipped. 

thecfarm

I have transport brackets on mine. I only put one on,on one side only. Mine are just 2 pieces of ½ inch flat stock with 2 big 8 inch bolts. I only put the bolts through,and just about put the nuts on so they don't fall off. The wind has never moved in the 8 years that I have had it.And I have sawed on windy days and the head will start to move by the wind.
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5quarter

Cguignard...Don't take offense, but I'm still a doubting Thomas with regard to the tree being walnut. Fresh cut walnut is olive drab in color. And in your pic, what little can be seen of the end cuts looks like too much sapwood and one of the larger branches is showing a reddish brown heart. Walnut also has an acrid, distinct smell when being cut and the crotches are mostly "U" shaped. in your original pic, most of the crotch areas are "V" shaped.  I just don't see any clues that indicate walnut. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, as it sure would be nice to add some walnut to your stash. I second the motion for some pics of the logs and log ends. Boxygen had an interesting suggestion that it might be butternut. I couldn't ID a butternut tree if someone hit me over the head with it, but I've seen the lumber and it is some awful nice stuff.                           
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WDH

A close up pic of the end grain would be nice.  Looks pretty sappy to be walnut  :).  Still looks opposite branched. 

Nice job!
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RynSmith

Quote from: WDH on November 18, 2013, 07:36:23 AM
There are no nut trees that are opposite branched.

So, you're saying horse chestnuts aren't really nuts?  I sense a defamation suit!  :o   :D

thecfarm

That tree looks like some I have on my land. One picture of the end of the log will solve. I have some maple that is dark in the center too.
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Cguignard

Good afternoon, just got home from helping my buddy make the last dump run of brush, he took a bunch of pictures of the logs, fresh cut of the stump, nuts and leaves, when he e-mails them to me I will post.  I hope it turns out to be walnut, the nuts looks like walnuts but darker.  It would be great to have some stuck over the barn. When we cut that tree the sap was running like crazy, I wish my sugar bush ran like that.  But that is for another post. 

thecfarm

I have a few butternuts on my land. Here's a link for the nuts of walnuts and butter nut.

They are on page 4.

http://www.extension.purdue.edu/extmedia/FNR/FNR-420-W.pdf

From what I can see walnuts look kinda round and butternut look more oval.
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Cguignard

These nuts are more oval and the leaves have a quite long stem on them. The nuts have a skin covering them and a deep ridged shell and looks like it has two kernels inside, looking at the half shell I have.

OH Boy

Quote from: RynSmith on November 23, 2013, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: WDH on November 18, 2013, 07:36:23 AM
There are no nut trees that are opposite branched.

So, you're saying horse chestnuts aren't really nuts?  I sense a defamation suit!  :o   :D

are Buckeye  considered nuts also? because Buckeye is opposite branched. thats what they taught us in school, MADBuck, Maple, Ash, Dogwood, Buckeye. -opposite. everything else, Walnut, elm, all others, - Alternate.
Just from the distant pictures on this I'm with the Red Maple crowd. Are the nuts here actually being taken from the tree? or from the ground around.
A leaf picture would be great, if it has one still attached somewhere.

LoneDuck

My black walnut are almost round and have a very thick skin on them. Trust me on knowing how black walnuts look. I have around 20 of the @#$@#$ in my yard. What a mess they make.

Cguignard

OK here are the pictures, if it turns out to be butternut 8) or walnut 8). I will saw it, use it, and love it just the same. I just hope it is healthy :D.  What do you think?  ???


  

  

  

  

  

 

POSTON WIDEHEAD

WOW....the shape of the butt log would make some nice cookies. :)
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beenthere

Nut looks like it is butternut.  Thanks for the pics.  8)

QuoteI just hope it is healthy :D.  What do you think?

Not too healthy, as it is cut off at the ground now...   ;D
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