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De-barker
« on: December 01, 2013, 10:36:08 PM »
What is the benifit to the de-barker option on the new mills?

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Re: De-barker
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 10:38:01 PM »
Gentlewolf,welcome to the forum. Are you buying a mill? Upgrading?
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 10:45:52 PM »
Looking to buy a mill soon and was wondering if the debarker is a huge benifit or not, right now I used friends old woodmizer 40 but soon going to purchase a mill for myself

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Re: De-barker
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 10:53:28 PM »
While you are waiting for replies,go to the top of this page, put in debarker, into the search box,click onto the next box,I see This Topic,you want This board,we are in the Sawmill board and press search. that will keep you busy.  :D
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2013, 10:55:36 PM »
Thanks I will check it out

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Re: De-barker
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2013, 05:32:09 AM »
My "debarker" is one of various tools I use to peel bark off of a lot of pine I have. It extends the band lifetime very significantly. In my case, if the bark were still tight I would choose to saw right thru it suffer the consequences of sand/dirt. If I had a production mill I would certainly have a debarker.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2013, 07:43:54 AM »
My Debarker is second only to my Setworks.  I would not saw without both of them.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2013, 08:41:36 AM »
 I found my debarker more trouble and in the way than what it was worth and took it off, I'd never be without my sharpener, and yes a couple times a year I wish I had my debarker on. About 90% of the time I can get any dirt off in the first slab and flitch board.   Steve
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2013, 08:50:47 AM »
My Debarker was the best think I had installed on my mill before it arrived to the farm.
It has paid for itself. I don't have to scrape bark off or wash logs……put 'em on the mill, engage Debarker and go to sawing.  8)
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2013, 08:56:13 AM »
the advantage shows up when sawing heavily skidded logs. They are not 100% in my opinion but better than not having if the logs are dirty.  The one on my 40 is trouble free, not sure on other makes,    david
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2013, 09:06:38 AM »
I always set the log up for the first face opening according to the log, not the dirt.  That way the debarker takes care of the dirt and I get the most quality lumber from the log.  Notice the turner claw marks made when I adjusted the log.
 

 
This SYP log is set up for sawing.  The Debarker will and did take care of the embedded dirt.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 09:40:29 AM »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, Gentlewolf.

I would not want to be without my debarker.

I honestly believe that the debarker extends blade life about 5 times!

Without a debarker you can get into a situation where you can't saw a whole log without changing the blade, unless you scrape the dirt off!
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 09:53:05 AM »
I concur with what was said before. The debarker will pay for itself quickly with extended blade life and less hand cleaning time. I would also add a leaf blower to the list of stuff you need. Blows off loose dirt, use to clean up sawdust on the mill, lumber and engine. You can pick up a good lightweight one for $100-150.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2013, 10:47:46 AM »
I always set the log up for the first face opening according to the log, not the dirt.  That way the debarker takes care of the dirt and I get the most quality lumber from the log.  Notice the turner claw marks made when I adjusted the log.
 

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This SYP log is set up for sawing.  The Debarker will and did take care of the embedded dirt.
 
 In that pic I would just give the another 1/4 turn and be in clean wood and still be cutting the same 4 faces.   Most times there are ways around dirt.  Steve
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 01:04:18 PM »
One more thought I didn't mention earlier. Lots of windblown grit gets embedded in the tree bark, so if you don't have to cut through that, the blade will last longer. The debarker can help you even if the logs look clean. Also in many species the outer bark can actually be harder than the wood you are cutting, so more blade wear that you can reduce with the debarker. I love mine. ;D
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 02:42:19 PM »
Thanks for the advice, looks like the opinions sway both ways on the subject, a lot to consider

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Re: De-barker
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2013, 02:51:14 PM »
I have been looking and considering the lt35 hydraulic from woodmizer is there another mill from another manufacturer that would compare
20,000 is a lot of money, but it is an investment and I want the best along with the most out of my money any ideas on that?

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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2013, 02:55:56 PM »
IMO…..go with the Woodmizer and the Debarker. You can thank me later.  ;D
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2013, 03:03:19 PM »
I'm in a different country and generally sawing different things but still love the debarker.

Since i'm portable sawing for others and charge by the hour I think it is a must, as it extends the time between blade changes and no time spent mucking about with dirty logs.

Also - Welcome to the forum, great place here :)

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Re: De-barker
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2013, 07:43:52 PM »
My Debarker is second only to my Setworks.  I would not saw without both of them.

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