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Re: De-barker
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2013, 09:18:39 PM »
I haven't even cut a single slab and I'm already contemplating upgrades. But more so, saving money. For my old LT25, what options do I have for a debarker?
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2013, 10:55:18 PM »
A debarker is a fundamental accessory.  Before the debarker, when I had a dirty log, I used to pressure wash, scrub with a brush, chop with a hatchet, and scrape with a drawknife.  Now with a debarker, I just saw.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2013, 12:53:18 AM »
Here's the standard consultant's answer. "It depends."

I ran another guys Wood-Mizer for a season, no debarker. Didn't miss it when I was sawing Western Red Cedar. Didn't know what I was missing when I was sawing Douglas-Fir. The D-Fir bark holds a lot of dirt/sand/clay/pebbles/rocks.

My manual mill didn't have  debarker and by the time 9 months had elapsed, I was seriously regretting it.

When the opportunity came to upgrade to a hydraulic mill, the debarker was the very first option I chose. I've since added an autoclutch, a few quick-adjust outriggers, a dragback, and modified my blade lube system to make it semi-automatic. Still no setworks.

If I had the volume of work to justify it, my next machine would be a Super Hydraulic with a full set of FA outriggers, a diesel power plant, remote operator's station, autoclutch, lubemizer, and maybe setworks. But number one would be a debarker.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2013, 03:00:51 AM »
The best example I can give is one time when Danny and I was cutting one of our many projects. We had a log loaded up with a fair amount of Ga. red clay on the outside of it. I got the log in position and Danny steps up to start cleaning the log. I motioned for Danny to get out of the way engaged the debarker and went to sawing. Danny just stood there shaking his head and said, "That one cut would have killed a blade on his mill". The debarker will not only save you money on blades but in time from not having to clean the logs.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2013, 03:54:49 AM »
Yep…..everyone should experience some of this Southern Red Clay. Can't live without a debarked.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2013, 12:39:02 PM »
I agree that red clay is problem almost as bad as sand. I would do without set works before not having a debarker. Really depends on where you're logs are coming from on how necessary a debarker is. Most of the time I need it.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2013, 08:50:51 PM »
I had seven logs really caked with dried mud today.  I got 1500bf, but it took 4 blades.  The Debarker took care of it's side and we wire brushed as best we could with the off side, but it was still bad.  They looked like glazed donuts.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2013, 09:05:17 PM »
I had seven logs really caked with dried mud today.  I got 1500bf, but it took 4 blades.  The Debarker took care of it's side and we wire brushed as best we could with the off side, but it was still bad.  They looked like glazed donuts.

Just be glad you had a Debarker with all that mess!  :D
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2013, 09:24:55 PM »
Mud, you should try frozen gravel and rocks on a log and the de-barker rides over the rock and cleans it nice then the blade cuts the rock in half and ruins  the blade.  :D :D ;D
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2013, 09:43:31 PM »
I can not even imagine the horror of frozen mud or logs.   :o
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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2013, 09:44:55 PM »
Lucky you.  :D 
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2013, 09:51:14 PM »
Even the bark freezes on the log. Can't get it off either. :D :D
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2013, 11:39:38 PM »
The one case where I'd like a debarker on the exit side of the cut is when I'm sawing an ice-covered log in the winter. More than once I've seen the sparks flying on the exit -- the blades is sawing through dirt that's embedded in the ice :(.

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Re: De-barker
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2013, 05:45:20 AM »
They looked like glazed donuts.

OK. It's time for someone to say "it always comes down to food". I did it.

Speaking of food, the NC gathering will be Saturday IF it isn't rained out.
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2013, 02:33:58 PM »
Buy the debarker. It will save you time and money and you wont regret it!
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Re: De-barker
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2013, 02:06:23 AM »
I use the mud saw only when logs are dirty, and have worn out the motor and both arms, ordered a complete new set up from wm.
Over the last couple months while the arms are being build, we have been sawing logs like mm pine, avoid the mud to some degree, never the less a box of saws don't got as far.
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