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apple tree management
« on: December 31, 2013, 09:29:44 AM »
First, I hope i am on the correct board on this site ...

I am thinking about planting some apple trees and I am wanting to have a full understanding of what I am getting into before I do. I know proper pruning, pollinators and disease management are all factors.
There seems to be lots of web sites that talk about some aspects or are trying to sell something so the possibility of the information being biased is there. My question is ... is there a good site or book that consolidates all this information in a reliable manner?
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Re: apple tree management
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2013, 10:42:12 AM »
Some apple trees meaning home use, or an orchard for production? Apples are labor, capital and pesticide intensive. Best to go in with both eyes open. :P :snowball:
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Re: apple tree management
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2013, 10:51:05 AM »
Once you figure out if its for personal use or a full orchard, you will need to decide if you want to go the pesticide or organic route. Check with your local ag extension office for better information suited to your area.
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Re: apple tree management
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2013, 07:59:09 PM »
Oh, this would be personal like a half a dozen trees, a commercial orchard would be way to much for a beginner ... well me anyway. Organic would be nice ... the ag office is a great idea.
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2013, 08:42:11 PM »
Codling moth, apple scab, cedar apple rust, fireblight come to mind right away.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2013, 08:52:06 PM »
Our wild apple trees on the farm used to produce really nice apples.  Now they're scabby and misshaped.  The commercial orchards at one time wanted wild trees eradicated.  They claimed they were reservoirs for pathogens.  It seems to me the pathogens came from the commercial ops  :-\
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2013, 10:35:55 PM »
Corley5,kinda the same here. My Father called them natural fruit  trees. No orchards close by,nearest one is 10 miles.
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Re: apple tree management
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2014, 02:02:45 PM »
I am in the same boat Jim, just wanted a few trees but some variety.Put in a fuji a granny smith a honeycrisp, a couple of cherry and a couple of pears . Already had a plum and a couple of peaches and about 90 feet of grapes. Now I look at the space I have and really think I want more !
Grandpa's orchard was suggested here and after some reading there I bought my trees there . They have tons of info and thier trees seem to be at least what they claim and usually bigger .Lots of info on pollination also and how to make that work , i just thought bees did it . So lots more reading till spring , good luck with yours .
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Re: apple tree management
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2014, 05:14:14 PM »
I see that you are in Northern Illinois.  That covers a lot of area, but Kelly Tree Farm in Clarence Iowa sells some really good trees.  Not sure what they have as far as apple tree varieties, but if you are not too far from the Mississippi you might want to check them out.  I've bought hardwood saplings from them in the past and have found them to be good people.  NOTE:  I am not in any way connected to them (nor do I know anyone living in Bolingbrook, IL   ::)

I just checked their website - fruit trees are rather expensive - $48 for 5-8 feet tall and they have a wide selection of varieties.  They are still a good source, but that is a bit more than I'd be willing to pay.

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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2014, 07:23:08 PM »
It takes some work, a hour or two per tree per year usually is about what I put into mine.   I have half dozen or so YOUNGER trees started planting in 2004 or so with Pear and Apple.   I added to them over the last few years & have I think 4 or 5 Pear, 2 or 3 peach, and maybe 8 or 9 apples all different varieties, then maybe 500 plums planted that went nuts so too many of them lol...

I ended up this year with some form or peach Blithe & lost all my peaches.   I have NEVER treated my stuff as I am going organic rout (unofficially.)   The blithe is going to have to have something if it starts back this year.

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Re: apple tree management
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2014, 08:07:48 PM »
Had a small (17a peaches, 7-8a apples and pears) commercial orchard way back when;  google "bare root fruit trees";  should cost around 10 bucks each (personally, I wouldn't plant anything else).  As has already been suggested, I'd check with the local extension service (ask for a commercial spray schedule, in addition to a home-owner's schedule).
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Re: apple tree management
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2014, 09:02:36 PM »
If you have cedar, and who doesn't, your apple trees could develop cedar apple rust. I would check with your local Extension Service and talk with orchard folks in your area.

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Re: apple tree management
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2014, 09:47:15 PM »
Another thing to watch out for is rabbits. Found that one out from experience. Had two 5 year old McIntosh apple trees and during the 4th or 5th winter the rabbits came and ate all the bark as far up as they could get it. A crap apple tree I had bought with them didn't survive it but so far the two good apple trees have. Been putting on piping ever since for the winters

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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2014, 10:00:23 PM »
If you've not already bought, I highly recommend Mollie's Red/Molly's Red/Mollie's Delicious variety.  They are not a Red Delicious type and are by far the best apples we grew.
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