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Author Topic: 4900 International for small log truck ? To small or you think it would perform?  (Read 6914 times)

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I would guess 1,500 to 1,800 ft. will be a load for a single axle. Not sure what type of wood you are going to haul but it does get heavy real quick. 3,000 ft on a 10 wheeler with permit and you got 20 ton. Sometimes a little more and sometimes a little less depending on how tight you pack it.

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Biggest load I have hauled on it was 3,340 bdft of Yellow Poplar, so the it weighed nothing like a big load of oak or hickory. We are on a mostly oak block right now and have to come out a rough road, been averaging 2,400 bdft. Got a lot of short logs in the chestnut oak.

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Biggest load I have hauled on it was 3,340 bdft of Yellow Poplar, so the it weighed nothing like a big load of oak or hickory. We are on a mostly oak block right now and have to come out a rough road, been averaging 2,400 bdft. Got a lot of short logs in the chestnut oak.

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You ever have any of those loads weighed? That's a lot of wood on a single axle. Up here the DOT would salivate just watching you come down the road toward them. lol

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And that my friend, is why I love Ky! Especially our neck of the woods. The DOT will make a showing and teach us a "lesson" about once every three or four years. Other than that they leave us alone. Especially the single axles. Switch to a tandem, and they will jump on you. Especially is you haul on the interstate.

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Biggest load I have hauled on it was 3,340 bdft of Yellow Poplar, so the it weighed nothing like a big load of oak or hickory. We are on a mostly oak block right now and have to come out a rough road, been averaging 2,400 bdft. Got a lot of short logs in the chestnut oak.

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You ever have any of those loads weighed? That's a lot of wood on a single axle. Up here the DOT would salivate just watching you come down the road toward them. lol
If you can do it down there and not have a problem, hey why not. Up here, you would be stuffed in the back of the car with 3mbft on a single axle. Im getting 36-3700 on a tri-axle with 20k front, 46k rears and a 20k tag, and thats pushing it. They would eat you alive up here, and if you hit someone, they would own everything.

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The guys with tandems here usually haul in the 3,500-4,700 range. Now, I need to make it clear that this is mbdft measured on the "International Stick". With the Doyle rule you will lose alot of footage in average timber. When the tandems roll to the mills in Morehead quite a few of them make the stoplights rock! A buddy of mine who is a logging legend, hauls on a tandem and has it tagged for 80,000#.

Things are definitely more lax here.

I would go broke hauling 1,500-1,700 mbdft a load!

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The guys with tandems here usually haul in the 3,500-4,700 range. Now, I need to make it clear that this is mbdft measured on the "International Stick". With the Doyle rule you will lose alot of footage in average timber. When the tandems roll to the mills in Morehead quite a few of them make the stoplights rock! A buddy of mine who is a logging legend, hauls on a tandem and has it tagged for 80,000#.

Things are definitely more lax here.

I would go broke hauling 1,500-1,700 mbdft a load!

Tom
that scale makes a big difference. we sell doyle here or weight. where you been any way?
we had a tractor converted to 6 wheeler then to a 10 wheeler.......couldn't keep tires n brakes on it as a 6. we hauled around 2000 ft by weight or 28,000 and it weighed 16800. as a 10 it gave no trouble and niether did the law. it was tagged for 55,000 as a 10 wheeler.
 

 

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I been in the woods ;)  I will try to get some pics on Monday, if I can ever figure out how to post em on here!

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kylogger good to see you back and posting hop ya stick around. I like the looks of that old red international

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I also like the old red International. Especially the horn on the cab.
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My grandfather has two of those old IH's one single axle with a RD450 and a wheeler with a 1160 cat. Good old trucks!
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Looked at the old International again. Collecting some logging pictures for someone. Anyway looks like it could use a wax job. :D
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Ok, so I think its down to the 4900 International and an F-800 I'm going to look at this weekend.
The F-800 has a cummins in it ( owner didnt know exact engine model ) it also has a 5 speed trans with a 2 speed rearend. Both are #33,000 GVW 12,000 fronts with 21,000 rears.
 

The 800 has 191,xxx miles with a Ford remanucatured engine about 20,000 miles ago.
The 4900 has around 107,xxx stock

I can get both for almost the same price, only a $500.00 difference between the two ...

What would you do, setting condition aside of course...
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The DT466 is a better motor.  Ford used 5.9l Cummins, one advantage to the f series ford is that the cab parts (doors, panels, instrument cluster) are the same as the pickup models.  I would not get the Ford if it has the older hydraulic brake system, parts places think highly of them.

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DT466 is a bigger motor, not a better motor. They are both very good engines.
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The only thing better about the DT is it has wet liners vs the parent bore 5.9 but the little cummins don't really have any issues because of that. The ford could have an 8.3 cummins which is also a great engine
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It's a toss up on the liners. Our DTA466 had to be rebuilt because one of the liners succumbed to cavitation, although I think if the anti freeze had been maintained properly, that wouldn't have happened.
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They are both very good engines. I don't like the fords the township never had any luck with them.
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Yeah I have heard of that problem I guess that's why some put coolent filters on the dt's
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