Logger damage to residual stand

[BargeMonkey]

[quote author=chester_tree farmer

The trick is u go to the town hall. Get names of typically out of state absentee LOs who never come up here and dangle the $ in front of them. Most of them don't even know they can make $ off the land so it is like winning the lottery when they are contacted.
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Ssshhh... giving away trade secrets.  :D   and its the county tax office. 4.00 and ive got a topo map, with boundries and names printed right on it in color. Most landowners arent blind to the value of wood, some think its worth gold. They all want to hunt, ATV, land use is the big selling point.

[SwampDonkey]

They'll ATV as long as there is a road or trail, if not you can scratch all 3 of the above off the list you mentioned for 95% of the land owers in these parts. I could walk all day across lot after lot and never see a foot print other than my own.

[chester_tree _farmah]

They'll ATV as long as there is a road or trail, if not you can scratch all 3 of the above off the list you mentioned for 95% of the land owers in these parts. I could walk all day across lot after lot and never see a foot print other than my own.

That isn't bad thing at times is it SD? :-)

Oops sorry BargeMonkey! Here u can get the info needed off the town tax map and tax records. ;-)

[Autocar]

Just wondering what the O.F.A. Logging Standard fellow had to say there on Monday

[Holmes]

 Did you get any  good news?

[coxy]

maybe they put tom in jail for speaking his mind 

[CCC4]

Update on my "fix" job...

I went through and fixed what needed be and then proceeded to thin the rest of this block so I can hurry up and move on down the road. Well...I had to go back in and re-cut due to the LO wanted more money...omg...

He went through and marked a bunch of trees the other day for me to cut...prolly 5 semi loads in one sector. I had a little talk with him and here is roughly the conversation....

Me...I left that white oak due to there isn't a tree around it for nearly 200ft
LO...Just cut it, the stave market is good
Me...Once timber like that is gone...it's gone...
LO...cut it
Me...What about the lower property line?
LO...Go in, and clear cut 50 to 100ft back up the hill from the old fence.
Me...What???
LO...Me and the adjoining property owner are fighting over the land boundary....clearcut the pith out of the line...maybe she won't want to claim it anymore.
Me...Again WHAT??? It's gonna look like dog crap!
LO...I really don't care

This is what I am running in to! I went back in and way laid the Hell out of it just for spite. Wishy washy land owners...always changing up their mind and causing me more work. Did I mention this is on a 50* slope and I had to wade back through all my tops to re-cut? I told him I would not be taking any sort of responsibility with the land line in question...that was going to be on them and I had the guy sign a piece of paper saying it was his decision.

[Southside]

Is that the millionaire land owner?

[CCC4]

Is that the millionaire land owner?

Yep! But his million wont stand up to the wrath of the adjoining LO...she owns 3 banks...and hates logging! LMAO!

[KyLogger]

  I can't wait to see how this play out!!

[yorlik]

Where's Tom?

Please give us an update.

[Lumberjohn]

Anybody???, nobody????

[luvmexfood]

 ??? ??? ???

[jwilly3879]

Maybe Tom didn't like some of the replies.

[beenthere]

Was hoping to hear some positive outcome from this, after all the excitement over the logger/forester relationship implied.
Maybe too early for some feedback from @Tom_Averwater .

[Ron Scott]

I've been waiting to see how this turns out also.

[barbender]

Tom kind of left us hanging ???

[Nemologger]

Earth to Tom....come in Tom...

[Reddog]

 

[CuddleBugFirewood]

I wonder if maybe a lawyer got involved and said no comments/discussion outside the lawyer/client relationship until the issue is resolved.  Either way wish Tom the best of luck and hope he fills us in at some point. 

[coxy]

good point  never thought of that  ;D

[Holmes]

  I wonder why he has not been on the FF since Dec.1 6:15 am.  I hope everything is alright.

[LeeB]

He took a pretty good drubbing from several folks over this post. He may not come back.  :

[Tom_Averwater]

I'm back . Been having computer problems .
I think 2 weeks ago 2 guys came out for a visit from the Ohio Forestry Assn. for a looksee . One fella was a logger and the other was the forester from the mill the logs are going to . We showed them some of the damage to the residual trees where they would run over or rub the bark off of them pushing over the trees as they felled them .  We got mixed feelings from them . They said some of it looks acceptable , which it does . I showed them several areas where there was a road on either side of it, but decided to drive over most of the small stuff flattening it .  They said there should of been a pre harvest tour of where the roads are or should be . My forester just kind of stammered around with that one . They said they were going to try to have a talk with the logger about he damage . I haven't heard anything yet .
    The loggers haven't worked in 3 weeks ,I think due to the 6" - 8" mud on the road . There are 18" ruts full of water in the main road . They showed up last week to try and work when it was frozen on top but almost got stuck trying to drain one of the mud holes ,  just making it worse .While I was watching the skidder operator trying to get stuck, the logger / owner walked by and didn't say a word to me .  A culvert in a small creek under the main trail is now collapsed with very little flow going thru adding to the mud problem . Water has come up and over the road several times . The touring logger said he would of used a wooden mat in that location.
I found 3-4 Ash tree tops dropped across our line fence onto the neighbors , one of them at least 75'. I sent some pictures to the forester to look at . The forester came out and looked at them . It looks pretty much like hand work to me as the tops are across a deep ravine . There are several large Ash trees still to be cut hanging over the property line . I asked the forester what about those trees and he said the loggers might have to cut and drop them on the neighbors and then pull them back . I would think that was saying it was ok to damage the neighbors property.  Wow 
    I've been trying to figure out another access to the back 70 so I can cut more of the undersize Ash for our processor . I have to cross a small creek . I'm looking for a logging dray or self loading trailer that can be pulled with a tractor to pick up firewood size logs that are left over.

[treeslayer2003]

crane matts should always be used to cross waterways......or some kind of bridge. its the law here.