couple pics... post what your currently cutting

[stavebuyer]

The above is also why "Veneer" pricing varies so much. Huge valuation difference between a 12" Grade D rotary log 250 miles from the mill and a 24" Grade A Rift log. 

[PoginyHill]

Most companies (I am certainly biased toward the one I am with) prefer to develop a relationship with suppliers. It is almost a constant thing where we will buy logs we really don't need or want in order to get stuff we DO need, or to maintain a good relationship. The last thing a log buyer wants to do is shut off a good supplier unexpectedly - or even shut off logs they had been purchasing. Logs purchased that are less than ideal (a grade, length, diameter, or species that doesn't generate the best return in the current market - or logs from a certain area) are either re-sold or, most of the time, simply run and managed as part of the business. No buyer will expect to arrive at a landing and buy only 10ft clear hard maple 14-16" in diameter.

[stavebuyer]

As a general rule the larger and higher grades are harder to come by. A mill in the great lakes can source all the 11" 3 sided maple they want a few miles from home. If they have a need for Rif&Qtr A Grade Walnut somebody may need a plane ticket. 

The log auction game cuts both ways. Since I tend to have more logs to sell in July than Feb; I sell the Feb logs to ones who answer the phone in July. You may never sell the one log at a price that gets bragged about at the coffee shop but that log was under scaled and cut back from 10 to 9 anyway.

[olcowhand]

You two Gents are a Fount of Knowledge. Thanks for the Advanced Clinic that helps give me an understanding of the Veneer Market (not that I anticipate dealing in that Market, but I enjoy learning...).
Thanks.
Steve

[mike_belben]

I wonder why timberjack decided to make the see-saw 2 piece?  Lotta man hours and consumables went into that flange and all its gussets.

[PoginyHill]

There must be options that are available as to type and length of grapples to attach to it. Otherwise - you are right - a lot of stuff for no purpose.

[BargeMonkey]

 

 
 I've never understood guys pounding a machine into the ground, my 460 has HOURS, we aren't even 100% but figure 22-23k. 


 I looked at a sister to her today, I could put 3 FINGERS in the steering pin hole... 🤦‍♂️😆   just a shame and guys run them this way. 
I think I messed up 🤦‍♂️ but it's not whipped, lower hour, I know the guy who had it. 


 

[Ed_K]

 Why a single action grapple? And how did you get that trucker to take that load? I could never get to 3/4 up the ballasters  >:(  :( .

[BargeMonkey]

Ed it's dual arch, single arch would be close to helpless around here I think. I was trying to load more on 😆, they average just over 8kft on a quad axle trailer. Drivers where good, I was wondering getting out of here. 

[mike_belben]

I was looking at that rig thinkin wow those canadiens have a lot of high standards eh.. Admin Edit

[dustintheblood]

As a general rule the larger and higher grades are harder to come by. A mill in the great lakes can source all the 11" 3 sided maple they want a few miles from home. If they have a need for Rif&Qtr A Grade Walnut somebody may need a plane ticket.

The log auction game cuts both ways. Since I tend to have more logs to sell in July than Feb; I sell the Feb logs to ones who answer the phone in July. You may never sell the one log at a price that gets bragged about at the coffee shop but that log was under scaled and cut back from 10 to 9 anyway.

Haven't heard it better said ever in my decades in this business.

I will be telling this over and over and over

[dustintheblood]

 
I've never understood guys pounding a machine into the ground, my 460 has HOURS, we aren't even 100% but figure 22-23k.


 I looked at a sister to her today, I could put 3 FINGERS in the steering pin hole... 🤦‍♂️😆   just a shame and guys run them this way.
I think I messed up 🤦‍♂️ but it's not whipped, lower hour, I know the guy who had it.


 

So Barge, if you wanna feel bad about working hard, I dove headlong down the rabbit hole this evening to see what "logging" and "sawmilling" youtubers make from their "channels".  

I hate to break it to you'all but we're doing it wrong.  From what I've seen, there is a mountain of cash to be made from doing a whole lotta nuttin.  Add in the free-bee patreon (and don't get me started on that scam), and they're cash for life.

Good gracious me, I'm glad to be part of this real-deal community who wake up every morning, put their boots on, and go giver heck until the sun goes down (and then some).

There's easy ways to make fast cash, but I choose the hard way.

[Southside]

I don't think I could get the hair flip nor the doe eyes right to make the youtube farmer or sawyer thing work out well for me, and I suspect me walking around the mill in shorts and tennis shoes would not generate any views either.  

[g_man]

Huh - I just happened to make a video yesterday. Might work on the geezer channel.

I really enjoyed the good weather and perfect conditions this week. Cutting some fir. We didn't get any sun and it spat snow all the time but it was in the 20's with no wind. Your probably sick of my fir pictures but this one is the second biggest, board foot wise, that I have ever cut here. So I needed a pic. It was 23" at the butt and 260 BF. I can hear the laughter  :D It would have been more and number one but the top was dead ended into an ash top so it wasn't that tall. It had the typical 5' of butt rot.



 



 


While I had the camera out I mounted it on the ROPS and made a video of making up a small hitch, this tree and another smaller one,  and skidding them out through our scraggly woods. I'm cutting off of a new trail that I scuffed out last fall. On the skid out there are 3 sharp turns so I am keeping my wood lengths short. These are 26' to make up 12' saw logs. I had a bit of bad luck. When the cable releases from a snatch block the cable goes slack as it falls. That little tree got caught in the cable at just the right instant to rake the loose chokers free. I saw the tree and knew it was a goner. I thought about cutting it but I didn't..... Took me 4 extra minutes to patch up the problem it caused.

The video is about 20 minutes long. Not fast paced and exciting but slow like woods work and me. You'll be able to tell from the way I walk one way vs the other that the tractor is parked on a hill with the camera facing down.

https://youtu.be/SREaDzXR4JQ

gg

[doc henderson]

thanks for the video.  more realistic, than having all the "issues" edited out.  

[g_man]

That load on the quad axle makes for an awful pretty picture Barge.

gg

[lshobie]

Huh - I just happened to make a video yesterday. Might work on the geezer channel.

I really enjoyed the good weather and perfect conditions this week. Cutting some fir. We didn't get any sun and it spat snow all the time but it was in the 20's with no wind. Your probably sick of my fir pictures but this one is the second biggest, board foot wise, that I have ever cut here. So I needed a pic. It was 23" at the butt and 260 BF. I can hear the laughter  :D It would have been more and number one but the top was dead ended into an ash top so it wasn't that tall. It had the typical 5' of butt rot.



 



 


While I had the camera out I mounted it on the ROPS and made a video of making up a small hitch, this tree and another smaller one,  and skidding them out through our scraggly woods. I'm cutting off of a new trail that I scuffed out last fall. On the skid out there are 3 sharp turns so I am keeping my wood lengths short. These are 26' to make up 12' saw logs. I had a bit of bad luck. When the cable releases from a snatch block the cable goes slack as it falls. That little tree got caught in the cable at just the right instant to rake the loose chokers free. I saw the tree and knew it was a goner. I thought about cutting it but I didn't..... Took me 4 extra minutes to patch up the problem it caused.

The video is about 20 minutes long. Not fast paced and exciting but slow like woods work and me. You'll be able to tell from the way I walk one way vs the other that the tractor is parked on a hill with the camera facing down.

https://youtu.be/SREaDzXR4JQ

gg

Great video thanks for that!  It takes time and effort to log...and to shoot video and edit.. much appreciated.

[Magicman]

From one geezer to another, thanks for the video.  8)

[WDH]

The log auction game cuts both ways. Since I tend to have more logs to sell in July than Feb; I sell the Feb logs to ones who answer the phone in July. You may never sell the one log at a price that gets bragged about at the coffee shop but that log was under scaled and cut back from 10 to 9 anyway.

I was the Wood Procurement Manager for a large pine pulpmill and a large pine sawmill for many years sourcing 400 tractor trailer loads of pine per day.  When the summer came around and everyone and his brother were begging to haul when all mills were full and on quota, the suppliers who got the wood orders to haul were the ones there for me in February when all the mills were screaming for wood.

Jerk me around in February?  Don't call me in July.  You reap what you sow.   

[mike_belben]

Amen.  


And dust'n im sorry to hear you got wranglestarred.  Loggerwade, cotontop and swamploggers are atleast real crews that actually work.

A hotwife in tight tops is obviously the open secret of most not quite farming channels.  Good for them i guess.

[Resonator]

Add nuts319 to the list, one of the best chainsaw loggers on You Tube IMHO.
Poem is called "Good Timber"
Good things don't come easy - YouTube

[mike_belben]

I did watch one of his scaling/grading videos iirc.  Forgot the name. Good stuff.


*edit.. Wow that was deep.  Who wrote that?  Found it.  Douglas malloch from michigan

The tree that never had to fight
     For sun and sky and air and light,
But stood out in the open plain
     And always got its share of rain,
Never became a forest king
     But lived and died a scrubby thing.

The man who never had to toil
     To gain and farm his patch of soil,
Who never had to win his share
     Of sun and sky and light and air,
Never became a manly man
     But lived and died as he began.

Good timber does not grow with ease,
     The stronger wind, the stronger trees,
The further sky, the greater length,
     The more the storm, the more the strength.
By sun and cold, by rain and snow,
     In trees and men good timbers grow.

Where thickest lies the forest growth
     We find the patriarchs of both.
And they hold counsel with the stars
     Whose broken branches show the scars
Of many winds and much of strife.
     This is the common law of life.

[BargeMonkey]

 
I've never understood guys pounding a machine into the ground, my 460 has HOURS, we aren't even 100% but figure 22-23k.


 I looked at a sister to her today, I could put 3 FINGERS in the steering pin hole... 🤦‍♂️😆   just a shame and guys run them this way.
I think I messed up 🤦‍♂️ but it's not whipped, lower hour, I know the guy who had it.


 

So Barge, if you wanna feel bad about working hard, I dove headlong down the rabbit hole this evening to see what "logging" and "sawmilling" youtubers make,

There's easy ways to make fast cash, but I choose the hard way.

I'm dating a pretty attractive 23yr old who's made the joke we can set up a forestry related "Only Fans" and I don't have to work 😆🤷‍♂️

I post on here, have gotten to know a few people off here, I stir the pot on FB but honestly the whole video / social media thing isn't for me, I don't like people and I believe big brother is always watching. I'm planning to buy this piece of ground on a job where I'm working and possibly the cabin / piece I've cut, I'm taking out in NOWHERE, put my tin foil hat on and charge my phone off a solar panel, about how I feel about people / our government anymore. 

 

[lshobie]

Youll have to ditch the phone too..or the tinfoil cap will do nothing.

[GRANITEstateMP]

people make fun of me and my flip phone all the time.  I told them I'm about one broken phone away from getting myself a flock of carrier pigeons!