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Indian Chain Saw
« on: August 11, 2015, 11:27:16 PM »
 

 

Any one have one of these.

I found this in a privet collection and might be able to buy it someday but not now.

I think it's a pretty cool saw.
How about you?

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2015, 11:36:45 PM »
Cool saw. With the length of those cutters, you could still be sharpening them in 2045.
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2015, 06:04:43 AM »
I think it's pretty cool too!!
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2015, 08:58:39 AM »
Near mint condition
I did some research : It's a 1959 Indian Sioux ......manufacturer in Illinois. 77cc. 19 lbs. 3.5hp. 16:1 fuel mix. 7/16"-1/2" chain 16"-24". PM AH-7 engine type 1198.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2015, 09:17:19 AM »
Do you think it's the same company as the Indian Motorcycle?

If so,  they probably had it made by someone else and put their name on it.

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2015, 10:23:52 AM »
No relation to the motorcycle company.
From what I see the saw company started out as rebadged Clinton saws in the early 1950s manufactured near Chicago.
Went out of business around 1964.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2015, 10:27:09 AM »
Just to add Magnus from Chainsaw Collectors SE  says they were sold in Sweden as farmer grade saws.
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2015, 09:36:22 PM »
I'll bet you can hear that one running, a few towns over. Like an F/A-18 with "burners" lit.

Just looking at that "muffler" makes my ears start to bleed.  :o
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2015, 10:25:10 PM »
Never heard of or seen one of those before now. Thanks for the picture and history.
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2015, 07:32:23 AM »
that saw looks sweet!

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2015, 08:51:21 AM »
Nice looking saw, couldn't imagine running it all day though!
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2015, 12:05:14 PM »
Nice looking saw, couldn't imagine running it all day though!

Think it might be a little bit loud?

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2015, 04:29:43 PM »
Those old Power Products AH 47 engines  ran so slow even with a stub pipe they were not that loud .

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2015, 09:32:05 AM »
Nice to see, hope you get to buy it some day.

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2015, 05:21:24 PM »
Our neighbor had a Lombard with that engine . Anyone saying that thing was not loud was already hard of hearing . Gearbox
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2015, 05:21:59 PM »
I think  that if my Forestry School had had one in 1958 I would have run  that  sucker too.
We had a Mall which weighed at least 150 pounds (tongue in cheek)and we hated it.
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We also had 2 homelites a 6-24 WHICH weighed  6 POUNDS an had a 24 inch bar,which was a 2 position carbuerator and a 7-21 which weighed 21 pounds and had an all position carbuerator
\We liked these 2.I think the 6 and 7 designations were for HP
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2020, 12:44:22 AM »
Do you think it's the same company as the Indian Motorcycle?

If so,  they probably had it made by someone else and put their name on it.
They used Chrysler motors. 

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2020, 04:21:11 AM »
Very cool
 Thanks for sharing  smiley_thumbsup

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2020, 06:37:20 AM »
Seems Indian had quite a few models.

Some go info on the acres website

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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2020, 09:04:40 AM »
What i want to know is how the clamps got through the beam.  Hole saw?
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2020, 11:05:23 AM »
I ordered the coffee table book, Chainsaws A History by David Lee and in conjunction with Mike Acres.

It's a beautifully illustrated book. I thought there would be more on 70's saws...they just touched on them. The book is really about the 'oldies' both domestic and foreign.

So if you're really into the old saws like the aforementioned Indian, this is the book to have. I'm going to send mine to a friend in Canada, as I really have no interest in saws before the 70's.

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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2020, 11:42:25 AM »
I have a copy, it is nowhere near a complete history but is very representative of each period in chainsaw lore. I have a small collection, particularly want a complete two man that won't cost me a quart of clean blood and rights to my first born. Some guys think they have the Crown Jewels.
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2020, 12:18:04 PM »
What i want to know is how the clamps got through the beam.  Hole saw?
Looks like 2x4 roof trusses in a shed 

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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2020, 12:34:06 PM »
I have a copy, it is nowhere near a complete history but is very representative of each period in chainsaw lore. I have a small collection, particularly want a complete two man that won't cost me a quart of clean blood and rights to my first born. Some guys think they have the Crown Jewels.
There's one paragraph where they like mention all the US saw manufacturers back in the day. They made the decision to illustrate only the saws that represented certain periods and were noteworthy with respect to chainsaw stair-step history.

They had an obvious bias for IEL, pre-war and post-war.........but IEL arguably had the first one-man direct drive chainsaw. And actually, all the saws after that were nothing more than a refinement of the IEL original design.....it was that good. IEL became Pioneer and the rest as they say, is history.

Even when presented with proven one-man saws, many loggers were slow to convert from two-man saws.

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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2020, 03:43:45 PM »
They were forced to abandon the two man, the saws were too dangerous and too cumbersome in the west coast forests where they were designed to be used. Saws were resisted period. The loggers didn't like the noise, they were temperamental beasts needing constant fiddling to keep them running and many were afraid the newfangled machines would put them out of work.
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Re: Indian Chain Saw
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2020, 06:38:40 PM »
The AH 47 engine was to chainsaws early on about like Briggs engines to lawn mowers .I think they might put out 4 HP if that .I think I have two of them, one on an old Lombard and another on a David Bradley 360 .Slow as an old snail .
In the early days of two cycle go karts these were an "entry level " engine .They made hop up kits for them and they ran in a special class for themselves and Clinton engines .As for the early karts McCulloch pretty much dominated the field for years .  

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« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2020, 11:57:52 PM »
They were forced to abandon the two man, the saws were too dangerous and too cumbersome in the west coast forests where they were designed to be used. Saws were resisted period. The loggers didn't like the noise, they were temperamental beasts needing constant fiddling to keep them running and many were afraid the newfangled machines would put them out of work.
That's a good point.....

The loggers loved the two-man saws because against the hand crosscut saws, they could do many times the scale in a work day. But there was a reason the handle end of the two-man was called the "idiot end". The "idiot' was the one forced to risk his life just holding that part of the beast.

Even though I missed out on a constant diet of OG Doug Fir, I did get to take many a giant....and even used springboards on the biggest along with Silvey tree jack packs. Ten yrs earlier into the trade and I would have had all the giants I wanted everyday.

I think the best time to be a PNW logger would have been to start in the late 60's with direct drive saws and go through all the saw iterations up into the 80's...then retire and do something else...lol. Those gear drive saws before that were beasts of weight and effort.

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