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Started by Peter Drouin, January 26, 2016, 05:36:32 PM

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Peter Drouin

 

 

When the PV won't stick in the frozen ground I use a block of wood.


 
Works good for me.

I use a 12" sheet rock knife to get the frozen sawdust off the lumber.


 

And always use this stuff in the winter.


  
I wait till spring when it's on sale, and can get it for $1.00 a jug.

The other thing when your cutting frozen log or ½ frozen. And you know the blade is razer sharp and you get waves. Turn the feed rate up so the tooth will dig in and cut strate.
I see sawyers slow down thinking it will help and cut flat.
It will but, you wont get no wood cut. :D :D
So the next time try cutting a little faster. there is a sweet spot for your mill and horse power.
Hope this helps. Anyone out there have more ideas? 
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

fishfighter

Move south? ;D Glad I don't have that problem.

4x4American

Good thread, Peter!  I would add that when the boards are stuck to the cant if you're not using the dragback a hookaroon is your best friend, particulary a Logrite.  Those things are handy. 

Oh and I like to shovel the sawdust back while its still shovelable with a snow or feed shovel.  And I always blow off the mill so the sawdust dont freeze to it.  I do that regardless of the weather.  I like to take an o ring pick and clean out the grooves in the guides. 

I found your feed rate advice to work well for me when I was having problems a few weeks ago. 

Also, if they are half frozen and big you can saw em in half and let em sit for a coulple days so they get froze all the way through faster
Boy, back in my day..

drobertson

No doubt,  sawing half froze logs for the last few days, a pain, speeds and feed are a killer, reaction too,, 
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

jwilly3879

I was at this property doing a footing inspection and saw this method of sawdust removal.



 

POSTON WIDEHEAD

Good tips Peter but I hope it don't get this cold down here.  :)
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

larrydown60

I really like the snow blower idea. 8) :D

4x4American

Me too!  I might bring mine to the job tomorrow and make some room!




Boy, back in my day..

sandsawmill14

dont saw under 30 degrees ;D 
i realize this would greatly shorten some of you guys season but it solves almost all cold weather problems :D :D :D

jwilly i have always wanted a snow blower and you may have just given me a reason :D :D :D
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Ohio_Bill

Peter , That is one fine looking lumber shed .
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WDH

If the logs are froze, so am I  :)
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YellowHammer

Peter, you are a tough hombre, I think the peavy not sticking in the ground would have done it for me. :D
I tried to saw the other day when it was cold and my plastic dust collector hose snapped in half.  I was done, so I climbed into the tractor cab, turned on the heat, listened to the radio, and dug stumps. Much more better.   ;D

YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Peter Drouin

YH, there's nothing better than a tractor with a cab. 8) 8) 8) 8)
I love mine, 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Percy

Nice lumber shed and lumber collection Peter... I have a shack with a wood stove in it. Gets used alot this time of year
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sandsawmill14

wdh, yh im with yall last week mon, tue to cold, wed had about .10" of ice so didnt work, thurs day was nice and we sawed a little over 3200 bdft fri it was cold and snowing but i had to go make payroll so we sawed about 500 bdft hit a rock froze to the bark so i payed up and we called it a day ;D

i dont have a tractor with cab but my backhoe does but i have broken all the windows out of it execpt the winshield (it busted but still in place) and 1 door :(  i replaced them all twice and decided to forget >:(  it came from ny but i forgot what city so no ac :( so windows or not its a trade off  ::)
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fishfighter

Yep, my backhoe has no windows too. No need here in the south. If the outside temp drops below 40F, I just throw another log in the fireplace and keep warm. Being retired does have it perks. ;D I can always put off things if I want. :D

jmouton

hmmmm   a snow blower , what a good idea,,  just have to keep the bark out of the sawdust,, might have to try it ,,


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thecfarm

Snowblower!!!! I wonder if you could open up the second stage,I think that's what's it's called,to allow more bark to go through. On my snow blower the clearance is just about nothing.
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terrifictimbersllc

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Kbeitz

Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

thecfarm

Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

jmouton

i am still looking for the start button on my  shovel,,, :D :D                    havent found it yet


                                                                                                                 

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WoodenHead

0 deg F (or -18 deg C) on a calm day is about my limit for cold weather sawing.  Frozen logs dull the blade a bit faster, but saw well.  Half frozen logs just sends me into waves.   >:(  I only have 28 gas ponies to work with though.  I'm not sure I could increase the feed rate in half frozen logs.  I'm usually just at the point where I hear the motor start to slow as I am sawing under normal circumstances.   ;D

Dress in layers, watch the fingers, and keep moving!   ;D

Andries

Sometimes, the building schedule or log delivery forces me to mill when the weather looks like this:

Miserable weather, but as the old Finnish guy said: "There's no such thing as bad weather, only bad choices of clothing."
But really, get some good clothes to wear and figure out how to stay dry and warm. That's the starting point for quality time on the sawmill in freezing temps. If you're starting to think that you've got frostbite on your feet, hands or whatever, you won't be able to concentrate on the milling.
I haven't tried the snowblower on sawdust yet. That'd really polish up the snow chute!
The suggestions re windshield washer fluid is a good one. We use the -40 rated stuff because, yup, it gets that cold here.
It works a couple of ways. The boards don't freeze to each other for a few minutes and the sawdust on the mill can be blown off with the leaf blower, as you mill. If the blower isn't used as you mill, you won't be able to gig the head back to the front because the top of the rail will be blocked with frozen dust.
If its colder than -25 C (-13 F) you probably won't be able to keep up with the freezing, then its time to sharpen bands in the shop.
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Magicman

 :o  I see that and think "oh crap".
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