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Re: Its beginning to look a lot like a sawmill
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2016, 09:32:04 PM »


I think I figured it out again. Just hope I can remember the time I sit down and  try...... :D

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Re: Its beginning to look a lot like a sawmill
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2016, 09:36:00 PM »
By golly, that's a nice tensioner.  Good idea.  Using what you've got is also very cool.  Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without.  Nice little rhyme I say to myself all the time...
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Re: Its beginning to look a lot like a sawmill
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2016, 09:37:24 PM »
After you add the pictures to your gallery, forget that confusing page it brings you to, look on the little bar of links, right under where it says forestry forum gallery, and click on 'my gallery', like you were just going there to look at the pictures.  Then, either click one of your albums and find the pictures you want to post, or you can just scroll down and look for the picture you want to post.  Click on the picture.  Now it opens up a bigger screen with the picture you clicked on enlarged.  Just below it you'll see a box that looks like you can type in it because you can.  Now take out a pencil and write that code down on a piece of paper.  Then go to the regular post box, and type the code in exactly how it was originally written, minding capitals and lower cases.  Then press post and you're done!
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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2016, 10:19:07 PM »
After moving my mother into her new house, I got to work on the mill for a couple hours today. Any luck and I will get to fab an engine stand for the Kubota tomorrow. I think I'm going to add some uprights on the back. I was hoping  that it would work like it is built, but there is way to much flex. So 4 instead of 2. I also might lower the height of it a bit too. It's all tac welded for now. I didn't want to go all out and weld it up solid until I am sure it will work like planned.  Got my acme rod in yesterday so I'm wanting to get that all figured out and installed. Its a 1/8" per turn. Any suggestions on sprocket sizes?  Might take a trip to tractor supply tomorrow to get a good idea on sprockets. Won't buy there but I can at least put my hands on them there.

Thanks for all the replies so far. I enjoy reading all of it.

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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2016, 12:00:20 AM »
After you add the pictures to your gallery, forget that confusing page it brings you to, look on the little bar of links, right under where it says forestry forum gallery, and click on 'my gallery', like you were just going there to look at the pictures.  Then, either click one of your albums and find the pictures you want to post, or you can just scroll down and look for the picture you want to post.  Click on the picture.  Now it opens up a bigger screen with the picture you clicked on enlarged.  Just below it you'll see a box that looks like you can type in it because you can.  Now take out a pencil and write that code down on a piece of paper.  Then go to the regular post box, and type the code in exactly how it was originally written, minding capitals and lower cases.  Then press post and you're done!

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Re: Its beginning to look a lot like a sawmill
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2016, 08:54:01 AM »
Awesome build ! What I am seeing here is pure genius !  I'm looking forward to seeing this in action ! Love the floor jack idea !
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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2016, 09:31:03 AM »
Gearing for chains and sprockets is pretty easy.  Just counting teeth on the sprockets is all there is to it.  You have 1/8" per turn right now, so put (for example) a 10 tooth sprocket on your acme rod and use a 20 tooth sprocket hooked to a jackshaft and crank handle to turn the 10 tooth sprocket.  You now doubled your turns at the acme rod and every turn of the handle will turn the acme rod twice.  Every turn of the handle will give you 1/4".  If you used a 40 tooth sprocket on the handle, every turn will give you 1/2" of travel (1/8" x 4).  I have mine set at 1/4" per turn, using threaded rod as a shaft for my crank handle and #40 chain.  I bought the sprockets and chain through McMaster Carr because their selection and prices are pretty good.  Surplus Center may have what you need at even better prices.
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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2016, 09:33:53 AM »
After you add the pictures to your gallery, forget that confusing stuff that 4x4 wrote and do what ljohnsaw wrote page it brings you to, look on the little bar of links, right under where it says forestry forum gallery, and click on 'my gallery', like you were just going there to look at the pictures.  Then, either click one of your albums and find the pictures you want to post, or you can just scroll down and look for the picture you want to post.  Click on the picture.  Now it opens up a bigger screen with the picture you clicked on enlarged.  Just below it you'll see a box that looks like you can type in it because you can.  Now take out a pencil and write that code down on a piece of paper.  Then go to the regular post box, and type the code in exactly how it was originally written, minding capitals and lower cases.  Then press post and you're done!

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« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2016, 07:32:27 PM »
So......I didn't get done, but made a lot of progress. Then cut it apart built it again cut it apart and built it a 3rd time. Shew.......I thought I thought threw it and had a plan. Main problem was when I added the back uprights and boxed it in it wasn't square. Come to find out I had one leg that was about 1/4 inch shorter then the other. Man that cost a lot of time and work. But its all Square and plum and level now.

Added the acme rod and they work nicely. Need some advice on the thrust bearings. I don't want to just leave the rod resting on the angle at the bottom. I was thinking thrust bearings sandwiched between a couple of washers. What do ya'll think? 1" rod so I'm thinking 7/8 washers? Well here is a few pix. Oh yeah, I swear when I started my Kubota up it was clockwise looking from the rear. So that's how I built the mill. Guess what? Old Murphy has been hanging around. It was ccw. So I had to redo that too. But that wasn't to hard. I've learned to takc everything in place then come back after I know its going to work and weld it up.

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Re: Its beginning to look a lot like a sawmill
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2016, 08:40:38 PM »
Thrust bearings comes with hardened washers. You could use a throw out bearing.
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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2016, 09:21:20 PM »
I used hangar bearings for the bottom.  Just like a pillow block, different orientation.  Not bad price wise either.  They don't need to be American bearings for this application, the Chinese ones will be fine.
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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2016, 09:22:30 PM »
Thanks Kbeitz. I didn't even think about using throw out bearings. I'll have to look into that. If mine turns out half as nice as yours I'll be happy and figure it was a success.

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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2016, 08:32:02 AM »
If you want cheap just put a brass plate under it.
If you got to your local junkyard it should be easy to find a throw out bearing in the engine pile.
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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2016, 08:39:41 AM »
How about some old lawnmower deck spindles off a junker lawn tractor?  There's decent bearings inside there.
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Re: Its beginning to look a lot like a sawmill
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2016, 08:41:12 AM »
How about some old lawnmower deck spindles off a junker lawn tractor?  There's decent bearings inside there.

They are not made to take side a force. Wont last long.

Whats meeded is something like a "Banded Ball Thrust Bearing"
It's sealed to keep the dirt out.
E-bay has them.
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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2016, 01:32:31 PM »
I machined my ACME rod down to 3/4 on the end and they are resting in 1500lbs trailer axle bearings to support the weight.
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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2016, 04:24:43 PM »
looks like fun,, I can smell the grinding dust and weld smoke from here! ;D  not to mention the sawdust between the ears a burning :D  thanks for sharing your build.
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2016, 06:58:11 PM »
I machined my ACME rod down to 3/4 on the end and they are resting in 1500lbs trailer axle bearings to support the weight.

Trailer axles have tapered bearing and are made to take side thrust pressure.
They should work great.
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Re: Its beginning to look a lot like a sawmill
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2016, 07:45:52 PM »
You're doing a great job. It's fun to see what people come up with. I don't know what your plan is to "roll" your cutter on but I thought this picture may help you. The mill is basically an "I-beam" frame with angle iron (turned edge up) on top. The angle is used to rest the cutting heads rollers on which are basically about a 2"-3" diameter grooved wheel. It actually rolls very easily-sometimes too easily  ::)  The dog bars are basically tubing (probably 2" with the dogs slightly larger round stock with flatbar welded to use as dogs. They have a nut welded on the tubing with a threaded "T" handle bolt used to tighten the dogs down.  It's rather crude but simple and easy to work on. I suspect your mill will be quite the jewel when you're finished.  8)
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« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2016, 08:55:28 PM »
outpost22,you mean like this.  ;D

 

 

Kinda the same thing that you did. You can see my lock to keep the head from moving when the wind is blowing.   ;)  It's only finger tight,but keeps it in place.
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