Synthetic Oil

[Stihlowner]

I told a friend about a synthetic oil for his saw.
One mix for any 2 cycle engine.
71/1
He has been using it for about two weeks now and said the saw doesn't have exhaust smoke anymore and the engine revs up better and runs a lot smoother.
I told him I have been using it for over 15 years in all my 2 cycle engines and that was enough for him to try it.
He was a little worried about the gas oil ratio but said if your engines have run on it that long it must be pretty good stuff.
No need for gas stabilizer either because it's already in the oil.

[Gearbox]

I use Amzoil Saber at 50/1 . A plus is that the mosquitos leave when you start the saw and don't come back .

[Stihlowner]

That is a good thing!!!

[Stihlowner]

I use Amzoil Saber at 50/1 . A plus is that the mosquitos leave when you start the saw and don't come back .

You should never have an oil problem at 50/1 if that is the oil that I'm thinking about.
I believe that oil is recommended for a 100/1 mix.
Factory tested at 400/1 with no problems.
Some day people will be adding oil to the gas with an eye dropper.
Old days we poured in a whole can, someday in the future we will just add a few drops.

[Gearbox]

That's what it say's 100/1 . But I am old school

[gspren]

  Stihlowner, what brand are you talking about?

[Stihlowner]

Amsoil Saber Professional  100/1

I have been using OPTI-2 for over 15 years  71/1

[Al_Smith]

Do I detect a new player in the ever present oil wars per chance? If so a few questions .

Firstly how does one go about measuring precisely 71 to 1? Rather odd ratio I would think .Secondly why in the world would anybody make a claim that a ratio of 400 to 1 would provide any protection what so ever ?  ???

[ZeroJunk]

Also, what is the point ? Are you actually going to save enough money to make a flip in the scheme of things ? I can't detect any smoke at even 32 to 1. Maybe I'm just blind.

[weimedog]

Do I detect a new player in the ever present oil wars per chance? If so a few questions .

Firstly how does one go about measuring precisely 71 to 1? Rather odd ratio I would think .Secondly why in the world would anybody make a claim that a ratio of 400 to 1 would provide any protection what so ever ?  ???

You do know these boards do prove that those pesky trolls are alive and well...

[sawguy21]

Metric  ;D

[thecfarm]

Come on Al,I see nothing a matter with 400:1. As long as it's not my saw that is tuned to 40:1.  ;D I would gladly do a trial with someone else's saw. Might take a couple years to get the results.

[Stihlowner]

Do I detect a new player in the ever present oil wars per chance? If so a few questions .

Firstly how does one go about measuring precisely 71 to 1? Rather odd ratio I would think .Secondly why in the world would anybody make a claim that a ratio of 400 to 1 would provide any protection what so ever ?  ???

OPTI-2 can be bought in many different size containers.
I use the 1.8 oz pouch for a small batch.
I pouch per gallon of gas will make a 71/1 mixture.

I didn't make the claim that the oil was tested at 400/1 and performed well.
Amsoil did so you should send them a email and ask them.
Please post their response.

[Al_Smith]

 :D I'm slow on the take up but I think I've got it .About like a dry martini ,you just dump in the gin and whisper vermouth over it .---- Soak a q-tip in oil and drop it  in a 5 gallon can of gasoline  and call it a day .

[Stihlowner]

Also, what is the point ? Are you actually going to save enough money to make a flip in the scheme of things ? I can't detect any smoke at even 32 to 1. Maybe I'm just blind.

Money is not the point but since the gas stabilizer is in the oil I don't have to but it anymore.
The point is OPTI-2 can be used in any 2 stroke engine  no matter how old or new.
This way I just have one can with 2 cycle mix for my chainsaw, snowmobile, weed eater and my outboard.
Some of those engines called for a different mix using conventional 2 cycle oil.
The new synthetic oils with the leaner mix make life simple with just one gas can with one mix and the engines run better.
Carbon build up is a thing of the past.
I had to change the spark plug in the snowmobile several times in a season.
The plug in it has been in it for years now using this oil.
Noticed a rpm gain in the snowmobile since using it.
Can't say on the others because they don't have tachs on them.

[Al_Smith]

I've got 2 cycle engines spanning over 50 years and they  run just fine on 32 or 40 to one .Being such a modern guy I even ran a now two year old Stihl weed wacker on 50  to one .Of course they had thrown in a little 6 pack of Stihl ultra in the deal when I bought it . I think I've got 3 bottles of it left .

Funny I mixed a jug of gas up at 32 to one with ultra and it didn't smoke on the Stihl weed wacker, nor the Stihl blowers nor on a 40 year old McCulloch chainsaw .You don't suppose it might have something to do with the carb setting do you ? 8) Oh I do love the great oil debate .

[Stihlowner]

I've got 2 cycle engines spanning over 50 years and they  run just fine on 32 or 40 to one .Being such a modern guy I even ran a now two year old Stihl weed wacker on 50  to one .Of course they had thrown in a little 6 pack of Stihl ultra in the deal when I bought it . I think I've got 3 bottles of it left .

Funny I mixed a jug of gas up at 32 to one with ultra and it didn't smoke on the Stihl weed wacker, nor the Stihl blowers nor on a 40 year old McCulloch chainsaw .You don't suppose it might have something to do with the carb setting do you ? 8) Oh I do love the great oil debate .

That's great!!!

[Stihlowner]

I've got 2 cycle engines spanning over 50 years and they  run just fine on 32 or 40 to one .Being such a modern guy I even ran a now two year old Stihl weed wacker on 50  to one .Of course they had thrown in a little 6 pack of Stihl ultra in the deal when I bought it . I think I've got 3 bottles of it left .

Funny I mixed a jug of gas up at 32 to one with ultra and it didn't smoke on the Stihl weed wacker, nor the Stihl blowers nor on a 40 year old McCulloch chainsaw .You don't suppose it might have something to do with the carb setting do you ? 8) Oh I do love the great oil debate .

[Jeff]

Okay, if you must use the quote function, please learn how.  Put your respones OUTSIDE of the quote tags. It's aggravating as all get out to try and read anything, and because I am here to check on a report to moderator email, I couldn't give a rip about it now.

[Gearbox]

I won't get into a oil debate . I just know the mosquitos don't bite when I run 50/1 Saber and that's a good enough for me to keep using it .

[Stihlowner]

Okay, if you must use the quote function, please learn how.  Put your respones OUTSIDE of the quote tags. It's aggravating as all get out to try and read anything, and because I am here to check on a report to moderator email, I couldn't give a rip about it now.

Sorry I wrecked your night.

[Stihlowner]

No smoke is a good thing

[Stihlowner]

I've got 2 cycle engines spanning over 50 years and they  run just fine on 32 or 40 to one .Being such a modern guy I even ran a now two year old Stihl weed wacker on 50  to one .Of course they had thrown in a little 6 pack of Stihl ultra in the deal when I bought it . I think I've got 3 bottles of it left .

Funny I mixed a jug of gas up at 32 to one with ultra and it didn't smoke on the Stihl weed wacker, nor the Stihl blowers nor on a 40 year old McCulloch chainsaw .You don't suppose it might have something to do with the carb setting do you ? 8) Oh I do love the great oil debate .
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That's great!!! No smoke is a good thing.
My snowmobile always left a trail of blue smoke at 32/1, recommended mix and the outboard also always had some exhaust smoke.
Not a bit of smoke from either of them now with the synthetic oil at the leaner mix.
My posts were not intended to tell anyone to change what they are doing.
I just posted info and results of using different products.
I do find that a few on here have a problem with people trying different products and posting the results.

[Stihlowner]

I won't get into a oil debate . I just know the mosquitos don't bite when I run 50/1 Saber and that's a good enough for me to keep using it .

That is an excellent reason!!!

[Bandmill Bandit]

Ive been using the BelRay 2 cycle synthetic oils for so long I can't remember when I started. Think is was probably in 78. Also have the Husky little bottles of synthetic but mostly for the purpose of refilling with BelRay so its easy to mix in a gallon gerry can.

No problems at all with the synthetics and I use the 50 to 1 mix