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Re: Timberjack 230D
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2016, 07:00:08 AM »
  nice job I did almost the same thing on a pettibone 501 m goat but used a ford 1 ton cal and rotor got it all done and it would not fit down in the belly pan  >:( >:( >:( had to grind 11/2 off the rotor what a pain in the  but didn't matter how much weight or how steep it was it would stop don't under stand why they never put bigger brakes on some of these skidders

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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2016, 07:44:09 AM »
Does that front piler apparatus have enough oompf to really pick up big logs or do you still have to kind of push them into the pile just with a little more control?   

I've never seen anything like that before.   

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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2016, 09:04:52 AM »
Nice work on the brake conversion Mountain_d. That would be much simpler, and better than messing with old original brake parts .
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2016, 09:09:00 AM »
Does that front piler apparatus have enough oompf to really pick up big logs or do you still have to kind of push them into the pile just with a little more control?   

I've never seen anything like that before.

Yes it works great. It will lift enough that the rear tires will lift off the ground. I've had several full length poplar trees in the piler at a time, with no trouble. I'm surprised they aren't more common,mint makes the skidder far more versatile, and allows it to pile logs up to about 7' high.
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Re: Timberjack 230D
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2016, 11:05:09 AM »
Mountain_d

    I don't know if the brakes on a T'Jack are the same as a T'Farmer or not, but I put a lot of disc conversions on TF'S. There not too hard to do, and well worth the effort. They stop and hold waaay better than the "best" drum brake ever did.
   I just finished doing one on a C5C transfer case. I used the rotor & caliper from a 96 VW Jetter.  A couple pic's.

   

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Nice , I would like to do that to my Garrett. Question, was the original drum brake hydraulic or mechanical?
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Re: Timberjack 230D
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2016, 11:44:56 AM »
Up North, nice looking Jack, always liked the look of those older jacks but went with a C4 TF instead.

Not to derail the thread but I have a question for mountain_D on the brake modification. Is that a cotta 1335 or something different? Looks very similar to mine and I'm lookin for a drop in replacement that is easier to get parts for than the 1335.



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Re: Timberjack 230D
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2016, 06:12:47 PM »
U N Hooker
Thanks for the pictures. Can you describe what you made to go from the PTO spline to your 4 bolt hub?
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2016, 08:18:25 AM »
Mountain D

     

Thanks for the pictures. Can you describe what you made to go from the PTO spline to your 4 bolt hub?
Mountain D
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  The output shaft already has a 4 bolt flange on it that the orig. brake drum & the u-joint bolted to.  I just put the same hole pattern in the rotor and the 3/4" spacer (needed between the flange & rotor) to move the rotor out for caliper clearance. You can see the flange & spacer in the second picture.

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Re: Timberjack 230D
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2016, 05:33:35 PM »
 tantoy
   Nice , I would like to do that to my Garrett. Question, was the original drum brake hydraulic or mechanical?  (quote)

    All the ones I converted to disc were hydraulic drum brakes. The earlier ones had the slave cylinder outside the drum and moved a lever to apply the brake.
The later ones have the slave cyl. inside the drum, mounted to the backing plate.
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Re: Timberjack 230D
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2016, 09:04:48 PM »


  The output shaft already has a 4 bolt flange on it that the orig. brake drum & the u-joint bolted to.  I just put the same hole pattern in the rotor and the 3/4" spacer (needed between the flange & rotor) to move the rotor out for caliper clearance. You can see the flange & spacer in the second picture.

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Thanks UN. I will clean the brake area up and have a closer look in the spring. I am planning to get through this winter as it is. I will add a new topic and post some pictures after I get it converted next summer hopefully.
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Re: Timberjack 230D
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2016, 09:57:01 PM »
tantoy
   Nice , I would like to do that to my Garrett. Question, was the original drum brake hydraulic or mechanical?  (quote)

    All the ones I converted to disc were hydraulic drum brakes. The earlier ones had the slave cylinder outside the drum and moved a lever to apply the brake.
The later ones have the slave cyl. inside the drum, mounted to the backing plate.
10-4, My Garrett has mechanical service and parking brakes. I would need a mechanical caliper or convert to a hydraulic system, maybe a line lock.
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Re: Timberjack 230D
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2016, 10:47:33 PM »


Not to derail the thread but I have a question for mountain_D on the brake modification. Is that a cotta 1335 or something different? Looks very similar to mine and I'm lookin for a drop in replacement that is easier to get parts for than the 1335.
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Crazy4saws,
I am not sure what a Cotta 1335 is? Is the the transfer case make?
Mountain
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