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Started by snowstorm, November 15, 2016, 06:48:18 AM

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snowstorm

buys another paper co. twin rivers of madawaska buys burrows paper corp. and there 4 mills in ny and ms

sprucebunny

MS193, MS192 and an 026  Weeding and Thinning. Gilbert Champion sawmill

Woodhauler

I would say its bad! Plenty of mills in state to buy.
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Maine logger88

79 TJ 225 81 JD 540B Husky and Jonsered saws

Mooseherder

Madawaska shut down their #3 machine this year and laid off a few people.  The rest of the place is afraid for the next shoe to drop.
Twin Rivers also got a bunch of concessions in regards to Tax from the Town of Madawaska.  Everyone else had to pick up what the mill used to pay.  It was substantial.  There is a couple dozen Camps for sale on Long Lake because taxes are too high now.

Mountaynman

burrows  is right here local in little falls ny they haven't bought wood in years right on the rail line they buy fluff from other mills years ago when I was a boy they bought wood and reloaded on the rail to go to finch in glens falls we have no pulp market here till they get done cutting the old company land off maybe 5 more years till they run out of wood to cut then the state gets it all then no one will ever cut again
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coxy

Quote from: Mountaynman on November 15, 2016, 07:19:54 PM
burrows  is right here local in little falls ny they haven't bought wood in years right on the rail line they buy fluff from other mills years ago when I was a boy they bought wood and reloaded on the rail to go to finch in glens falls we have no pulp market here till they get done cutting the old company land off maybe 5 more years till they run out of wood to cut then the state gets it all then no one will ever cut again
I hope there raping it down to 6-8in on the stump this way most of us will be gone by the time it ready to cut again  something like that there should be some claws in there that it has to be cut even if it every 15-20 years apart the state is useless with there land the money they could make every year

Maine logger88

Quote from: Mountaynman on November 15, 2016, 07:19:54 PM
burrows  is right here local in little falls ny they haven't bought wood in years right on the rail line they buy fluff from other mills years ago when I was a boy they bought wood and reloaded on the rail to go to finch in glens falls we have no pulp market here till they get done cutting the old company land off maybe 5 more years till they run out of wood to cut then the state gets it all then no one will ever cut again
How does that work? The paper company is selling the state the land as its being cut off? It's my opinion that states should own no land other than the land it takes for there office buildings. It will never happen but that's how I feel
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Mountaynman

IP, Finch, Champion and the rest of the paper companys that are no longer here have all sold off to various TIMOS most of the land lies within the ADK park 6 million acres of private and state owned land most sold off their conservation easements and they are cutting it hard mostly shelterwood style of cutting with a 100 year regrowth they are selling chunks to the state as fast as it gets cut there is no reason for them to pay taxes for a 100 years.

The worst of it is they are tearing out roads in some places to make foot access only in more of their forever wild areas. The waste of valuable timber in some of these areas is sick. It was sold with a 20 year fiber supply agreement about 10-12 years ago

Off to the woods to load a truck happy loggin boys be safe
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jwilly3879

NYS acquired a total of 161,000 acres of Finch Pruyn forest land from the Nature Conservancy.

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