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56 or 57
« on: February 22, 2017, 07:07:37 AM »
Hey guys, going to place an order for some of the parts to start my build. I've got my list together for most everything I need. I am going to order my pillowblock bearings, band pulleys, drive pulley, and belts from Surplus Center. Should I get the B56 or B57 belts? What do most of you guys that have built yours use? I'm going to order metal this week for the head also.

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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 08:15:32 AM »
I had too much trouble trying to put on the B56 and gave up.  I use the B57's with no issues at all.  All my parts came from surplus center.

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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 08:55:27 AM »
I have been using B57's for over 14 years and well over a million bf of lumber sawn.  I see no reason to change.   ;D
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 09:47:14 AM »
Thanks guys, I've been reading a lot on here, and it seemed the general consensus was the 57's. Just wanted to make sure. I usually read more than I post. I'm up to the first 84 pages on the saw milling forum.

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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 09:52:13 AM »
With all due respect to my elders, I tried the B57's for two months and saw plenty of reasons to switch back to the B56's. ;D 
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2017, 09:53:38 AM »
The 57's have better lines....

 

 
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2017, 10:20:24 AM »
With all due respect to my elders, I tried the B57's for two months and saw plenty of reasons to switch back to the B56's. ;D

How did you do that?  I tried to the point I figured I would break the pulley and quit.

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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2017, 10:25:28 AM »
My experience: use b56's!.  I started up (several years ago as I was building my saw) with b56's... and holly camolly were they ever hard to get on!  I did it, but I said "never again".  Last season, one shredded itself after 20mbf, so I quickly threw a b57 on there.  Now I know all belts are not equal, but this one barely lasted a month on the saw.  So just last week (during my winter-time sawmill maintenance) I replaced both belts to b56's.  To my surprise, they both went on very easily... same belt, same sheave, just way easier.  Like a pleasure to install.  They are still tight enough to keep out the sawdust, but not a fight to replace anymore. 

So to conclude, I would use b56s... I have listened to enough talks by Cooks Saw about reducing vibrations at the wheels, and I see a loose b57 as just extra vibration.  That being said, of course others have used them and managed just fine!  Ultimately, they both get the job done.
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2017, 01:00:00 PM »
I was not trying to change anyone's mind or to be argumentative, just stating what works for me.

I only use the B57's that come from Wood-Mizer.
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2017, 01:52:19 PM »
Same here, but I can't compare with B 56 never tried them. I like being able to swap and flip the belts regularly to equalize their wear,  and easily re-order them with other parts from Woodmizer. If my mill destroyed a belt in a month it would be because a blade broke inside and cut it.
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2017, 05:35:40 PM »
I haven't had any problems with Wood Mizer B57 belts.
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2017, 06:17:27 PM »
The ez boardwalk mill I had used b56. I changed them at 400+ hours. The wm mills I have recomend b57 so that is what I use. However I began having trouble with some sawdust clumps building up under the belt on the drive side. So we put a b56 on. Solved the problem so far.

Lots of videos out there about changing b56 belts. The best thing I found is to not get flusterated, use spray lube vice grips and blunt flat screwdrivers. Change them right on the machine.

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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2017, 06:34:25 PM »
 I have tried them all and I went back to the 57.
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2017, 08:10:44 PM »
Be aware some belt profiles have changed over the years. You want to be sure the band and especially the set teeth are not running on the steel/iron rim of the sheave. Some belts now are skimpy and don't extend above the sheave. Tightie loosie both work, I like tight as the belts are less prone to damage when the bands come off. Frank C.
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2017, 08:18:44 PM »
I am assuming that you meant break, and yes, I have experienced a belt being cut by a broken blade, but very few. 

I have never had a blade to actually come off while sawing.
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2017, 12:39:03 AM »
I've found that when installing b56 belts, you have to hold your mouth right or frustration will set in.
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2017, 11:21:26 AM »
Tried all like Peter, b56, b57, twolf etc,
Back to b57 till i quit.
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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2017, 12:03:24 PM »
I built my saw mill with the 18.75 pulleys and belts from surplus center. I used 60” B V-Belt Type B57 or 5L600 - 13-B47 but I have not sawed anything yet 6.05from surplus center versas  25.00 at napa same belt b57

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Re: 56 or 57
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2017, 01:05:16 PM »
The proper WM belts, which I believe are only available from WM, are not overly expensive.
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