Taking Delivery

[petefrom bearswamp]

Been watching this with interest
Very labor intensive, good thing you have good help
Great job Jeff.

[Jeff]

Last plated in 1973, so this may be the first time in 40 years it moved under its own power. I gotta figure out that whine.  It goes away when I push in the clutch.  Maybe low on gear lube? throw out bearing mebby?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U93DDEmXesE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i70CIVrlO4M

[pineywoods]

Sounds like one or more cylinders not firing.. Plugs? burnt/stuck exhaust valve ? Run a compression check..Valves gonna be a problem..Those old beasts need lead in the fuel to lube the valves. Unleaded/ethanol will burn the exhaust valves pretty quickly...The whine in the tranny may be the spur gear on that pto hanging off the side...Lookin GOOD

[Jeff]

It was running on all of them, it missed a couple times though. Just have a gas line dipped in a gas can. Its cold out here too and I never tried to let it warm up. It's only the 40s. You'd miss too. :D

It was running over 40 lbs of oil pressure on the old gauge.

[Darrel]

When I was a kid, my dad had an old 49 Plymouth that made the same sound. My first car was a 54 Plymouth and it also made the sound.  Put your foot on the clutch and it would stop. On my car, it didn't make the whining sound while driving only did it while idling foot off clutch. My dad sad all mopar cars of that era did that and not to worry. So I didn't. Now though, I'd at least find out what it is.

[Jeff]

I could fix it by putting in a radio.

[Darrel]

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[Magicman]

It should not be the throw out bearing because it should not even be turning unless the clutch is depressed.  I'd say that your whine is in the transmission.  You were in neutral so it may not whine when the transmission is in gear and the truck is moving.

[sandhills]

Does it whine in neutral if the pto is engaged?

[Jeff]

Dunno. I'll have to try that.

[Jeff]

Ventured a bit farther out the back of the shop today. Still no brakes, so gotta use the key and the engine to stop.
https://youtu.be/zD5S8A4XrW0

[coxy]

after sitting 40+years the bearings maybe a little dry let it run for a while and see if it goes away

[red]

They never heard of 5w-30 engine oil , more like straight 30w oil. With a can of STP.

[Jeff]

I changed the transmission lube. There was quite a bit of metallic particles in the hollow of the drain plug. I been working on the inside of the cab too. A little here, a little there.


 

[grouch]

Gorgeous old truck. That looks like a special barn find!

Vacuum wipers? I can remember the whining transmission in my Dad's old gray goat and the heater that would scald your legs but let the rest of you freeze.

Not to be a killjoy, but I'd be worried about the lead in the original paint when sanding. There's not enough to do much to us old farts, but it can affect kids.

[Edit to ask:]
Did Ford or Chevy ever make a flathead with the spark plugs in pairs like that?

I know on my '49 Olds they're evenly spaced. The only flathead Fords I've seen have been tractors -- even spacing -- and flathead V8s in hotrods -- also evenly spaced.

[Jeff]

This week i worked on more clean up. Front frame and firewall. Firewall is now red. I've decided to go the 12volt changeover route. Anybody got a one wire delco alternator with a 5/8 pulley? 


 

[coxy]

are you trying to make it go faster by putting a gm part on there i think that's what one of my jd 350 dozer has is a 5/8 i know the other one has a fat belt with a narrow pulley and gives me no issues

[Gearbox]

Jeff try one of the generator pulley they may be the same bore . A rebuilder can order pulley to fit I used 5/8 belt on old tractor and the rebuilder ordered the right pulley .

[Don P]

I think you'll need a ballast resistor in there as well. It's been awhile since I did the tractor I think I put a 12v coil on and the resistor was in the distributor feed

[Jeff]

I need the whole alternator. Might as well switch. All the lights are toast, the voltage regulator is toast, no idea if the gen is any good. So, 12 volt seems s best solution. Need resistors only for guages.  With the one wire delco, wont need the regulator and a 12 volt coil is cheap.

[grouch]

This week i worked on more clean up. Front frame and firewall. Firewall is now red. I've decided to go the 12volt changeover route. Anybody got a one wire delco alternator with a 5/8 pulley? 


 

Are you sure you want a 1-wire?

One wire compared to three wire

[grouch]

I need the whole alternator. Might as well switch. All the lights are toast, the voltage regulator is toast, no idea if the gen is any good. So, 12 volt seems s best solution. Need resistors only for guages.  With the one wire delco, wont need the regulator and a 12 volt coil is cheap.

Even surplus center alternators include the voltage regulator. You could probably throw a dart into the local pick-a-part salvage yard and it'd land on a vehicle with the voltage regulator on or in a 3-wire alternator.

[red]

When changing over to 12 volt,  I think most people leave the starter 6 volt. It really turns over fast.

[Jeff]

Yes, the starter can stay. The only question I have on it would be, going from positive ground 6volt to negative ground 12 volt, will it run backwards when swapping he power wire to the positive on the 12volt?

[grouch]

I couldn't get this out of my head. I changed my slant six over from the original 1st gen electronic ignition -- with self-melting modules -- to AC/Delco salvaged from an '80 Renault LeCar (that should tell you how common that system is). It eliminated the need for the ballast resistor and eliminated the need to always carry a spare module.

Your flathead can be converted to electronic ignition if you're converting to 12v negative ground.

DIY: Desoto upgrade (There was a follow-up on another forum, but that follow-up forum has per day page view limits for guests).

Bought distributor and HEI coil: Stovebolt Mopar "Mini" HEI

Oh, and for your dash:

12V to 6V 3A converter