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theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« on: February 01, 2018, 09:35:29 AM »
I've read quite a bit of tips about sharpener oil and dealing with filings and magnets. I eventually bought mine and about to run sharpener for the first time. The idea of a 'waterfall' to catch debris before it gets to the pump just came to me. Thin sheet metal bent to make a 'fence'. Magnets near the top.

Those who run these machines, do you think this would work? If not, what is the current accepted ideas for dealing with filtering out the metal filings?

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Re: theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2018, 10:37:48 AM »
Great idea. I use Bingo magnets on my Bridgeport mill. They have a handle
and I use a paint brush to clean the metals off the magnet. Works great.

 

 
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Re: theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2018, 04:50:58 PM »
Good idea, I am doing the same as kbeitz

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Re: theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2018, 05:16:02 PM »
  Putting the magnet in a ziplock bag will simplify cleanup where ever you wind up putting it.
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Re: theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2018, 07:32:43 PM »
I have the bms 250 and these are all great ideas. Iím gonna run with them all from the nifty little cake pan and ziplock bag to bingo magnets.

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Re: theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2018, 08:04:57 PM »
I first started with a 6x6 inch "dam" that's 2 inches high. But once I installed the dam, the corner interfered with the chain drive located underneath. So I bevel the corner the same distance as one of the short magnets supplied with the machine (see first image).

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Re: theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2018, 09:02:02 PM »
I first started with a 6x6 inch "dam" that's 2 inches high. But once I installed the dam, the corner interfered with the chain drive located underneath. So I bevel the corner the same distance as one of the short magnets supplied with the machine (see first image).

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That dont look too hard to do...Thanks for the pics. I might hunt thru the wife's many many cake pans and mutilate an appropriate one :D
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Re: theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2018, 10:44:06 AM »
Not to be a downer but there are filings and oil sprayed all over inside the sharpener not just at one place.

Although if one could make a dam whose magnets were easier to pick up and remove than those in the oil surrounding the pump, one might make the cleaning process easier to keep up with.

The bar magnets that come with the sharpener are very strong and the process of picking up one in a plastic bag would tear up the bags easily.
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Re: theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2018, 12:39:37 PM »
Not to be a downer but there are filings and oil sprayed all over inside the sharpener not just at one place.

Although if one could make a dam whose magnets were easier to pick up and remove than those in the oil surrounding the pump, one might make the cleaning process easier to keep up with.

The bar magnets that come with the sharpener are very strong and the process of picking up one in a plastic bag would tear up the bags easily.

The Bingo magnets are easy to pick up...
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Re: theory testing magnetic waterfall for woodmizer bms250mu
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2018, 12:59:34 PM »
I have tried many different ways to make it less of a PITA. I just do a through cleaning after every shrapening session by draining the oil and then a couple of good sized rare earth magnets and the air compressor. Takes about 10 minutes and it is pretty clean.
 
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