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« on: September 15, 2021, 07:23:31 PM »
Just bought my first 500i stihl . 10 lbs lighter than my 880 and will still pull a 36 in bar. 
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Re: stihl 500 i
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2021, 07:35:21 PM »
I have had mine for 2
Months now probably 60-80 hours on it. I really like it, the only thing I notice is it doesnít like small
Wood and 4 strokes, goes away as soon as you bite it into enough wood. Throttle response is great, itís pretty light for what it is. Does have too much plastic imo though, anyway, thatís my conclusion on it so far. I would recommend one. 
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Re: stihl 500 i
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2021, 10:54:52 PM »
Yep me too.  Happy. Happy happy with mine.  
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Re: stihl 500 i
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2021, 05:53:03 AM »
Are you guys using them for felling or bucking? 
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2021, 06:32:31 AM »
Felling, bucking and chainsaw milling 
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2021, 07:27:30 AM »
Some felling, but mainly bucking log after log for the sawmill, cutting them to length.  Just straight chainsaw dropping through logs, dozens an hour sometimes, what my other Stihl, a 462I, the precursor to this, didn't do so well at and I traded off for the new 500i.  This one starts fairly quickly with a prime button, and has a fairly easy pull.    

I usually use a 660 for this, my general go to saw, but the 500i cuts within a hairs breath as fast, and is significantly lighter.  I use the light bar, and RS chain, and am very happy.    
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Re: stihl 500 i
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2021, 07:43:36 AM »
I really love the performance of my new 500i (bought in May from my local Stihl dealer) but, man, it is a PITA to start sometimes.  I have tried every starting technique known to mankind.  Hot starting was always an issue, but now cold starts are also becoming difficult.  It will run a second or two, and then "run out of fuel" and die.  Sometimes it will require 20 or so false starts (40-50 pulls) before the fuel delivery eventually kicks in and it stays running.

I have taken it back to the dealer for service and their answer was "the computer says everything is ok with the saw".  ??? ???

A quick internet search for "Stihl 500i won't start" shows I am not the only one with this exact issue.  Maybe I should try premium gas, but my MS362 is a 2-pull starter, every time, hot or cold, using the same jug of gas mix.

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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2021, 04:11:31 PM »
@zippski this might not have any bearing on your particular problem BUT on my brand new saw of another brand/model the fuel filter was clogged after 3 tanks. I replaced it & ALL was good at that point. Inexpensive and worth a shot.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2021, 05:53:43 PM »
That's odd, mine is a very easy starter. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2021, 06:11:56 PM »
my 660 was like that and my dealer took it back in trade for an 880.  evidence to me I was not the only one.  he had to go through the distributor.  I am sad to hear the 500 I may be the same.  Stihl needs to make the great saws they are known for.  sad the politics get in the way.  they twice evaluated the 660 saying it was fine, but not to me when it would not start hot despite the procedure.  
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Re: stihl 500 i
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2021, 06:52:39 PM »
its your fuel and the 500i is to run on high test gas not low or mid grade . Sense your in Ontario use Petro can 94 octane gas. 

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2021, 07:03:50 PM »
I usually run 91 octane which is premium here, but only had 89 today and didnít wanna run into town for saw gas, so I mixed it up and ran it in the 500i, didnít notice a difference but will keep running the higher octane 
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Re: stihl 500 i
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2021, 08:20:57 AM »
@zippski this might not have any bearing on your particular problem BUT on my brand new saw of another brand/model the fuel filter was clogged after 3 tanks. I replaced it & ALL was good at that point. Inexpensive and worth a shot.
Thanks for this tip - I will check this out since it sure seems like a fuel starvation issue, but I am not sure why it never seems to starve for fuel after it is running
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2021, 08:26:24 AM »
its your fuel and the 500i is to run on high test gas not low or mid grade . Sense your in Ontario use Petro can 94 octane gas.
Yep, an hour east of you, ehp, in central Niagara (specifically, in escarpment shorthills country).  I will try a couple of tanks of premium to see if that helps.  I hope so, even though my MS461 and MS362 seem to have no issues starting and running on regular.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2021, 09:27:09 AM »
Sometimes it will require 20 or so false starts (40-50 pulls) before the fuel delivery eventually kicks in and it stays running.

I have taken it back to the dealer for service and their answer was "the computer says everything is ok with the saw".  ??? ???
I had a similar thread on my 462CM a few months ago, with a chainsaw that drove me crazy, and one day I was so aggravated I literally almost put it on the ground and drove over it with my tractor.  I didn't, but it was close....

I called it "Old Ten Pull" even though it was brand new.  I played with the wires, I put on a new fuel filter even though the old one looked fine, new plug, etc, recalibrated it many times, and all of a sudden, it began to start on the first couple pulls, like it was supposed to.  I don't know what was clogged, loose, or what was different, but it just "started working."  However, while it was still working, I sold it as fast as I could.

I replaced it with a new 500i, and I call it "The Leaf Blower" because it starts about the same as my leaf blower.  A half a dozen pushes of the primer button, a couple pulls, and it runs.  Just like my leaf blower.   :D  I'm using regular pump gas and oil in it, as well as all my saws and leaf blowers.

I did try some of the canned gas and oil mix from my local shop, and yes, it makes a significant difference.  No doubt.
So my advice would be to get a gallon can of that premixed chainsaw fuel from your local saw or hardware store and drain out the old fuel out and try it.  If it doesn't completely change character on that, there is something really wrong with the saw, no matter what the dealer says.

Then when you are at the dealer, get some of the basics and replace them.  Fuel filter, plug, maybe the fuel line, and go inside the saw and start pulling and jerking on every wire and connection in there.  In my 462, I found a loose wire and an oddly placed linkage.  If that doesn't work, sell it and get another.  
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Take steps to save steps.

If it wonít roll, its not a log; itís still a piece of tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not pieces of trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, theyíre burned, and you canít fix them.  Donít burn the cookies.

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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2021, 10:12:06 AM »
One thing  noticed is I gotta tuck my shirts in or the vacuum the flywheel pulls it will suck my shirt right to the recoil case and stay there lol 
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2021, 11:19:52 PM »
I don't know where - but I thought I read that the starting procedure for the 500i mentioned by Stihl was 9 or 10 pushes of the primer button as being the required number for cold starting..
I also watched in a Youtube video as a Stihl factory rep demonstrated how to do a M-Tronic reset from a cold start and he very obviously hit the primer button at least that number of times, cranking it up in a couple of pulls, prior to resetting it!  

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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2021, 10:18:05 AM »
Actually and since I am not fortunate enough to own a 500i - I decided to go on-line and look up the stated procedure for the 500i as described in a Stihl manual.
It plainly states "push the primer button 8 'or more as needed' times prior to pulling the starter rope"..
I'm wondering if those who have issues or problems easily starting or keeping their saws running after firing initially, could have it due to a lack of sufficient primed volume of fuel for the FI unit to firstly get it going - and then to allow it stay going to the point where it can be throttled up..
Stihl has always from my own experiences, been very exacting when it comes to starting procedures for their saws, and due to this model being a completely different animal fuel delivery-wise from the rest of the saws in their line-up, it just might make some difference..

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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2021, 09:50:14 AM »
Iíve had one since the first of the year ran it daily 6 hours falling and bucking without issues on 87 ethanol I wonder if itís more of the quality of the gas or you climate. Even after having the saw sit for 2.5 months without use on the same gas as before it fired in around 5 pulls.

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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2021, 10:00:40 AM »
I hope all you guys that are selling these problem saws, are doing so as parts only or at a discount.   The guy buying a used saw probably can't afford to buy new, and now he just wasted his Money on a junk saw that never runs right.   It sucks, but gotta take one for the team , don't pass the buck to another.   


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