Another Gem

[donbj]

Took a chance on a saw and bought without having a look at it. It looks like a real gem from the pictures. Friday night it should be here. Can't hardly wait! Suspense!!

[Tacotodd]

It always is!

[donbj]

It's a classic! Wife's picking it up on her way back from picking up our granddaughter. Have to really bag it up as she has to put it in the trunk of her car

[DHansen]

So we wait?  Or will you give us more clues.

[donbj]

Looks like a beauty!

[donbj]

Tempted to take the three hour drive tomorrow and get it but I'll wait and be sensible

[donbj]

What? No guesses?

[Tacotodd]

Well then, I see how YOU are going to be! Just playing but really PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell us. I did ask nicely, didn’t I?

[donbj]

Well ok then. A real mint looking 2100XP. We'll see when it gets here.

[chet]

And i was just about ta guess a Homylite Super 2 

[donbj]

Well, how close is that!

[DHansen]

Looking forward to photos.  I would have guessed anything over 90 cc as you seem to have been bitten by the big bore bug.

[Real1shepherd]

Sorry, late to the thread but would have immediately guessed 2100/2101 or 394 right off the bat.....!

Kevin

[donbj]

Ha ha yes. They’re my weak spot! We’ll see how well I did when it shows up

[mike_belben]

i just got offered a 460 magnum, 361 and a 440 parts saws for "make an offer" but figured i dont wanna go any further down the chainsaw addiction road. 

[donbj]

I hear ya Mike! I’m only going for the Huskies and Jreds now unless it something I can use as a trading tool. I’m going to divest of all the old macs and pioneers and some homelites. I have about 60 I’m not really interested in but pretty much had to take them all. Should make a few bucks on them

[HolmenTree]

Great find with the 2100, you never know what falls into your lap when you're not looking.
Like this low hour 1989 044AV I found last year, I don't plan on making money selling it, only money earned cutting with it  
Already got a scratch in the West Germany rewind housing badge earlier on. 

[Real1shepherd]

I hear ya Mike! I’m only going for the Huskies and Jreds now unless it something I can use as a trading tool. I’m going to divest of all the old macs and pioneers and some homelites. I have about 60 I’m not really interested in but pretty much had to take them all. Should make a few bucks on them

Truly a man after my own heart! I didn't exactly abandon Huskies, but early on in the game Jonsereds won me over too. And 15yrs ago, they were easier to find and pay for over the bigger Huskies. Love me the bigger cc Jonsereds!

But then again, my heart kinda stops a few beats when I see an original, clean unmolested 2100/2101...! I bet that's the condition you're getting.

Kevin

[donbj]

Well if the photos don’t lie it looks good in that regard. The fellow isn’t a chainsaw guy and said it was hard to start, too heavy and way too much saw for him. Just what I want to hear,

[donbj]

I hear ya Mike! I’m only going for the Huskies and Jreds now unless it something I can use as a trading tool. I’m going to divest of all the old macs and pioneers and some homelites. I have about 60 I’m not really interested in but pretty much had to take them all. Should make a few bucks on them

Truly a man after my own heart! I didn't exactly abandon Huskies, but early on in the game Jonsereds won me over too. And 15yrs ago, they were easier to find and pay for over the bigger Huskies. Love me the bigger cc Jonsereds!

But then again, my heart kinda stops a few beats when I see an original, clean unmolested 2100/2101...! I bet that's the condition you're getting.

Kevin

Nothing wrong with the Jreds at all. The ones I have are excellent saws. The 820 and 2065 both are just as good quality. A couple of the others need some work but so do the huskies.

[chet]

Even da best of equipment needs some maintenance and TLC once in awhile.

[Real1shepherd]

Well if the photos don’t lie it looks good in that regard. The fellow isn’t a chainsaw guy and said it was hard to start, too heavy and way too much saw for him. Just what I want to hear,

That's exactly what you want to hear! Too much saw, didn't run it much, too heavy, hard to start etc. That's the saw finding it's way to you.....

Kevin

[sawguy21]

Hmm, three hour drive so it's prolly not far from me. I'm a sucker for the big cube saws too.

[Real1shepherd]

They follow Don home like wayward sheep........

Kevin

[donbj]

Here she is! It's a beauty. First thing I did was cross my fingers and give a tug on the rope. Compression is rock solid. Now, pull plug and check for spark, nice and blue. Took the covers off and check things over, very clean unit, all stock and all there! Chain brake works great. It has the modified handle with the screws and is leak free, that's a blessing.

I thought an attempt at staring was in order and I proceeded to flood the daylights out of it. I asked the fellow to drain the tank of fuel as it was going in my wife's carb trunk. Didn't realize that there was still fuel in the line and carb so a shot of fuel into the carb was probly not a good thing to do. Pulled the plug and cranked it over and cleared things out and she fired up after about 5 pulls and first pull thereafter. 32" bar and 404 chain. Chain needs a good going over but I will more than likely just replace it.

I just love the sound and feel of these things.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[donbj]

Hmm, three hour drive so it's prolly not far from me. I'm a sucker for the big cube saws too.

Actually it was in the other direction toward Creston. Got lucky on this one!

[Al_Smith]

Three things .First they certainly have enough power. They have a super amount of compression ,mine wears a D-handle .Starting depends on the saw ,mine floods easily  .Cold start one pull   with the choke then get off it and usually a few more and it lights off .Warm start no choke usually one gets it then .I predict you're going to like it .

[DHansen]

Very nice.  

[HolmenTree]

Hmm, three hour drive so it's prolly not far from me. I'm a sucker for the big cube saws too.

Actually it was in the other direction toward Creston. Got lucky on this one!

Very nice donbj, it must be the last year 2100CD from 1986-1987 as that was about the time when Husqvarna introduced the XP decals. And yours looks like a earlier XP decal as they later ended up being a single blue XP.
If I'm not mistaken I think the Canadian 2100CD were the only ones that were labeled XP.
1988 the 2101XP was introduced with the blue XP decal on top cover and rewind  housing badge.

[donbj]

Thanks for the info HolmenTree. Appreciated. I'll snap a photo of the serial tag this evening and post it.

[Real1shepherd]

Super nice 2100, Don!!

Don't think that's the original AF cover, but that's very typical in these saws after all the yrs. Yeah, go by the serial#, not the XP decal on the cover. I have an earlier 2100 and it has the XP sticker cover because it's a replacement

Lots of guys on the forums have traced these saws by their production serial #'s. I think I even saw a database once from a spreadsheet. I've lost that over the yrs.

Point being is that there are folks out there that can nail the production yr of your saw. XP SEM's modules were available as early 80-81. When they started with the decals I don't remember. Again, it's fairly well documented.

Toss the chain brake...., to make it a real production saw from back in the day.  

Kevin

[Real1shepherd]

Oh and don't get caught up in the way the Swedes vented these big saw tanks. It's over-complicated, ridiculous and all the parts are NLA. Some folks have come up with some very simple alternatives....they would even make the Swede engineers blush.

Kevin

[donbj]

Here’s the tag on the saw. Date couldn’t be easier to sort, 1984  013231


 

[Real1shepherd]

Both my old 2100's start with 2991 and then the serial. Obviously, Husky made it easier by the time they got to your saw.

Old Jonsereds.....we've never figured out their serial # system. Only thing you can tell is if it's an early, mid or late production run just by the size of the number. If there's a code in there for dates, we never cracked it.

Not necessarily specific to the 2100, but someone posted on AS that the first digit on the serial is the yr, the second two digits the week.....on the saws that don't have the date stamp like yours. I'm not sure that even works on the 2100's......someone else said that 1984 was the first yr they started stamping the date code first.  

Kevin

[donbj]

Is that for just the 2100’s. My little 44 has a 1983 date.


 

[Real1shepherd]

Is that for just the 2100’s. My little 44 has a 1983 date.

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I don't know the answer to that....but you're blessed to have the date code stamped easily to read...... 

Kevin

[Greenhighlander]

Absolute beauty of a find .  Congrats 

[Tundra550]

Did you tell us how much the saw cost you?  thanks

[donbj]

Did you tell us how much the saw cost you?  thanks

This one was $525 Canadian

[Real1shepherd]

Probably sold to the weekend warrior back in the day.....notice the absence of the clutch cover dawg.

But the last thing you want is a clapped-out, high hr loggin' saw.....

That's about $416USD give or take a few cents. Don't feel bad....some yrs ago a 2101 appeared on eBay that was NIB, found in a closet. US saw....went for over $3,000. I quit watching the bidding after $3,000 because it made my stomach hurt. 


Kevin

[donbj]

This was pushing my limits but it looked so clean I went for it. Glad I did!

[donbj]

Prowlin around and picked up a complete 394 with good spark, bad compression. Can’t have both, right?   The other has some good parts and both have cases with all bumper pad tabs intact. That’s sweet!


 

[donbj]

Pulled the plug and muffler and took a look. Piston and cylinder actually look good. Maybe just bad rings. Thought what the heck, give it a shot of fuel, and the darn thing fired up! Happy camper!

[Real1shepherd]

What kinda compression did it have?  Good snag!

Kevin

[DHansen]

Don, what is your favorite big bore Husqvarna?  Why?

[Tacotodd]

My answer would be the kind that works & you ain’t gotta mess with

[Al_Smith]

Rings are relatively inexpensive .New rings, old cylinder will wear in in time ..

[donbj]

What kinda compression did it have?  Good snag!

Kevin

By the feel of it I guessed around 100. Felt the same as the 288 I got a few weeks ago. I put the gauge on it before I left this morning just out of curiosity from your question and it sits at 120#. Not bad at all. As Al commented, I think a set of rings is the ticket since the jug looks good from exhaust and plug hole at least. It'll get the good going over when the time comes though.
This one didn't really cost anything, just horse trading what worked. 

[donbj]

Don, what is your favorite big bore Husqvarna?  Why?

Good question. The 2100's sit at the top of the list, and not just because Kevin says so . I've met a few fallers from back in the day of this era that used them and reading about the history and reputation of them and I became quite intrigued by them. Especially after firing one up and giving it a few runs. There is no better chainsaw sound as it sits idling on the floor as well. Could listen to that all day .
The 185CD as well is a beauty in this regard but not as well known I suppose but has the same traits as the 2100. Very strong saw.
The 394's are right up there as #2. What a beast. I don't have the experience using these big cube saws that a professional would, my life has been with 60-70cc saws like my 262xp but I feel from what I have done with them so far they will keep up with or outrun the 2100 when tuned right. But that's just my limited opinion. The one I have running really rips.
Regardless it's a very interesting venture so far. Surprising what's out there.

[Real1shepherd]

Don, what is your favorite big bore Husqvarna?  Why?

Good question. The 2100's sit at the top of the list, and not just because Kevin says so . I've met a few fallers from back in the day of this era that used them and reading about the history and reputation of them and I became quite intrigued by them. Especially after firing one up and giving it a few runs. There is no better chainsaw sound as it sits idling on the floor as well. Could listen to that all day .
The 185CD as well is a beauty in this regard but not as well known I suppose but has the same traits as the 2100. Very strong saw.
The 394's are right up there as #2. What a beast. I don't have the experience using these big cube saws that a professional would, my life has been with 60-70cc saws like my 262xp but I feel from what I have done with them so far they will keep up with or outrun the 2100 when tuned right. But that's just my limited opinion. The one I have running really rips.
Regardless it's a very interesting venture so far. Surprising what's out there.

Lol....the 394 replaced the 2101....so it's a kissing cousin you could say with some serious chops. I've never run one....waiting for some likeable guy up in BC to give me dibs on one...ahem....!

The 394 has to be very similar to my Jonsered 2094 and that sucker is the only saw who will ride next to my 2100's....it's that good. Nothing you have will outrun the 2100 in 3' timber or bigger...not my 2094, not your 394 or your 262xp. But under 3' scale there are many saws to outrun the 2100/2101. Save the big dawgs for the big wood.
 
I would polish the jug at least so your fingernail can't catch on any transfers and throw some new Cabers in. After a couple of tankfuls, you should be sitting @145lbs or better. That would be plenty of compression for that saw to work properly.

Randy(mastermind) has some YouTube videos on polishing jugs. I follow what he calls the 'wigglesworth' method. It's totally non-aggressive and you can quit at any time before you get too far into the plating.

Kevin

[Al_Smith]

I've really never timed them but I think my 2100 and the two Partner P-100's cut  about the same .In theory they should be close as they are the same bore and stoke .As for the Husqvarna it was never popular here so mine is the only one I know of in this area .Compression static is 165 so I think except for the v stack intake with a K and N filter it's stock .I've never had the cylinder off  to check but weather souped or stock it's got enough as it sits .If it ain't broke don't fix it .

[donbj]

not my 2094, not your 394 or your 262xp.

I re-read my post and it kind of reads like I think my 262 would keep up to the 2100. I totally meant the 394, just worded it a bit wrong, bad grammer me.

[Al_Smith]

Not to annoy the Swedish saw afficionadoes but I have a souped up Stihl 038 magnum that will out run a Husqvarna stock 2100 on small stuff .When it gets to above 20-24  inches the contest changes .A saw just like a man has to know it's limitations .That said I like the Swedish saws .   

[Real1shepherd]

That was the point....smaller saws than the 2100/2101 will outrun it easily in smaller timber. Lugging around a heavy 2100/2101 with a smaller bar in smaller timber is a ridiculous waste of a good saw design.

Husky saw a change in timber scale needs in NA and came out with the 394 and then the 395. The 395 stayed popular all this time and is considered a 'big' saw. Now you have the 592 with autotune....if it ever hits the shelves.

Kevin

[donbj]

“Not to annoy the Swedish saw afficionadoes but I have a souped up Stihl 038 magnum that will out run a Husqvarna stock 2100 on small stuff”

Doesn’t annoy me one bit. Have a couple friends that are Stihl guys. This latest 394 cane by horse trading some Stihl stuff for it. They are good saws.

[DHansen]

Maintenance plays a big role in how good a tool is perceived to be.  A poorly maintained 066 or 394 will annoy the best of us.  

[donbj]

Maintenance plays a big role in how good a tool is perceived to be.  A poorly maintained 066 or 394 will annoy the best of us.  

Yep! I’ve had saws that spent time airborne back in my younger days.

[DHansen]

Not trying to drag this thread too far off topic, but I am curious as to what a good condition, functional 394xp is selling for at this time.  It does not appear to have been used hard.  Bar side faces are well worn off from use.  Can't see any paint remaining on the bar.  But no blue or heat indication on any part of the bar.  24" bar.

[donbj]

Not trying to drag this thread too far off topic, but I am curious as to what a good condition, functional 394xp is selling for at this time.  It does not appear to have been used hard.  Bar side faces are well worn off from use.  Can't see any paint remaining on the bar.  But no blue or heat indication on any part of the bar.  24" bar.

There's a few variables in my opinion. Is the saw all stock or does it have some cheap after market parts that change the picture quick? A friend rebuilt a nice 288 with a cheap Chinese jug and piston and didn't last long.
Around here it would go for around 7-800 Canadian or more if it's a real good one.

[DHansen]

Thanks for the info.