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Old school vs electric hand planers

Started by Jaket123, January 09, 2016, 08:07:48 PM

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Jaket123

Anyone on here have any experience with electric planers? The hand held type? If so any input would help I'm considering buying one. But debating if I should go with standard planes or go modern with the electric plane. Thanks guys!
Just cause...

gfadvm

Those power planers are great for planing a door edge to fit but not so good for trying to flatten a panel or slab.

Jaket123

Ok that's what I was wondering. Cause I know from time to time when I glue up a table top or something I'll have a board that's a little off and thought it might save some time Over a std plane.
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starmac

Not a lot of experience with them, but what I found was if you were planing something narrower than the bladed, in my case 3 inches, it does a nice job. If you try to make another pass on something wider, it just doesn't work, or at least I haven't found a way to make it work. I have been told it will do a better job on wider pieces if you grind the corners of the blades to a rounded edge, but haven't tried that.
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Darrel

The electric plane will only be marginally faster than a good sharp well tuned hand plane and it won't do as nice a job.  Add on top of that fact that the electric makes dust and a heluva lot of noise and I'll take a hand plane any day, even for a door edge. 
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

tule peak timber

We use a power planer A LOT to flatten very large slabs prior to sanding. An indispensable tool ! Rob
persistence personified - never let up , never let down

Darrel

Quote from: tule peak timber on January 09, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
We use a power planer A LOT to flatten very large slabs prior to sanding. An indispensable tool ! Rob

Rob, that isn't my experience, sadly, I wish it was.  Maybe I haven't used the right power planer or maybe I just don't know how to use it.  I have some large black oak slabs that need to be surfaced and am not particularly looking forward to the workout.
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

Bruno of NH

They make large hand held power planes .
Timber framers use them a lot .
I bet Rob has a very nice Feestool .
Bruno
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

Darrel

I'll try again and do a bit more research and if I find something that'll change my experience I'll buy it, Jaket123 probably would too.  Eventually I'd like to get a 42" planer but I haven't made that much money yet.
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

tule peak timber

Yes A Fesstool . Some pics of slabs we planed with the Fessfool tool. 

  

  

  One of the pics is a matched set of Black oak slabs. Three common ways to flatten material; slake by sawmill, wide belt sander, or electric planer. Once you get the hang of it , the electric planer is a potent tool !  Rob
persistence personified - never let up , never let down

POSTON WIDEHEAD

I could floor my trailer with 1 slab.  :)
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

tule peak timber

Man ,,,must be a really nice trailer !  :D
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Bruno of NH

Makita makes a wide hand held power planer that work well .
Bruno
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

Larry

I have a fairly new Porter-Cable planer.  It has a couple of uses for rough work but mostly a junk tool.  Could have got something in the same class from Harbor Freight.

I bet the Festool planer is sweet and well worth the money.  Seeing Rob's pictures makes me want one bad now.

Larry, making useful and beautiful things out of the most environmental friendly material on the planet.

We need to insure our customers understand the importance of our craft.

gfadvm

Anyone have a video or a link to one flattening a slab with a hand held power planer? I need to learn their technique!!!  I wrecked a benchtop with a power planer (and it only took a few minutes).

tule peak timber

A single frame video of how to rub the planer. Cheers Rob

  
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Darrel

Quote from: tule peak timber on January 09, 2016, 10:53:04 PM
A single frame video of how to rub the planer. Cheers Rob

 

Now this I find very helpful!  Look out black oak, here I come!
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

Clark

I've used a DeWalt electric planer and enjoy using the my old Stanley planes also. I would say the electric version is good for removing lots of material quickly. It produces shavings, not dust, so cleanup can be pretty easy.

I don't have the need for a Festool planer but I'm sure it can do a better job than the DeWalt. If you've got access to the "common" tool brands I would leave the more detailed work for the old fashioned plane.

Clark
SAF Certified Forester

ScottAR

I have a Bosch and use it quite a bit for finish carpentry.  They are amazing for fitting doors and working to scribed lines.   The real trick to using one is take a smaller bite than you think you should. 

Many try to use them like a belt sander but planers remove material much faster so light cuts are best.  You can always make another light pass. 

When fitting doors I set the depth of cut on 1/16" or 1/32" usually and count my passes to know where I'm at.  For flattening, start with the smallest depth of cut and see what happens.  Mine starts at 1/32th. 

I like the bosch I have.  The exhaust can be directed to either side by flipping a tab.  Small detail but nice as sometimes you need to change positions and redirect so it doesn't fill your pants pocket with chips.
Scott
"There is much that I need to do, even more that I want to do, and even less that I can do."
[Magicman]

OffGrid973

I love the one frame video...my HF planer and I never got along but I will try this complex diagram of left, right, up and see what is was missing. Last time I went electric I had lots of single passes with edges that needed to be flattened, this looks like a better method.
Your Fellow Woodworker,
- Off Grid

WDH

Rob,

Does the pooch come with the instructions?  :D
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Kbeitz

I got two of them and I love them both. I think they are only good for rapid removal
of a lot of wood real fast. I agree about  taking a smaller bite than you think you should.
Then finish up with a belt sander. to large of a bite will leave deep valleys.
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and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

21incher

I have a Bosch that works good. I originally bought it to level the face of a 4' x 30'  landscape wall I built with PT timbers that was uneven after drying and warping. One thing to remember is they work like a planer with one shoe offset, where a hand plane has a flat bottom with the blade exposed so it is easy to make a gouge if you try to take a big cut. :)
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Hilltop366

Worked at a boat shop for a short time 20 something years ago, on beams we used a 7" disc sander after the electric planer. Worked really well if you kept moving, it did make a lot of dust though. I should add that this was to prepare the beams for paint on a fishing boat not a fancy pleasure craft.

lowpolyjoe

Great thread!

I bought a harbor freight electric hand plane a few years back and ripped it apart with plans to attach it to a jig similar to a router flattening jig.  I started on the project but it didn't go well and I threw all the parts back in a box... which I may have thrown out by now.  Those are the kind of chances you can take when you march into HF with a 25% off coupon  :D

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