Band mill Router Plane

Kbeitz · February 03, 2018, 05:27:29 PM

I ordered two more brass nuts and rod. It will be so much easier
to build using 4 acme rods for lift than two. I got some more done
today. I don't have heat in my weld shop so I run down and weld
up what I need and bring it back up to my home shop. It makes
for more work but I'm wanting to get this done. Looks like I'm
going to get a jump start this year on my summer projects.

Kbeitz · February 03, 2018, 05:30:59 PM

I'm going to make a second track for this machine on the barn floor so I can do
4 foot wide table tops with it. All I need to do this is 4 more lengths of channel.

Kbeitz · February 05, 2018, 03:42:28 PM

Working on the top half today. It took most of the day just getting things
squared up and removing BB's.

Kbeitz · February 06, 2018, 10:09:21 AM

Putting the acme rods on today.

justallan1 · February 07, 2018, 04:52:40 AM

Looks like a fun build.
I'm eager to see it working, but am wondering about the stability and finish that it will leave.
I do think what you have going there would be a great idea for a sander.
I bought a bowling alley lane polisher awhile back that I was going to turn into a sanding table and you've given me a good idea.

Kbeitz · February 07, 2018, 02:47:04 PM

I'm waiting for two more acme rods to come from E-bay.
Wow this thing is a lot of work.

Kbeitz · February 07, 2018, 02:59:53 PM

Quote from: justallan1 on February 07, 2018, 04:52:40 AM
Looks like a fun build.
I'm eager to see it working, but am wondering about the stability and finish that it will leave.
I do think what you have going there would be a great idea for a sander.
I bought a bowling alley lane polisher awhile back that I was going to turn into a sanding table and you've given me a good idea.

You better post some pictures. I would like to see that.
I don't think I will have stability problems. This thing
already weights a few hundred pounds and there is
more to add. I was thinking about adding a vertical
cutoff blade to the carriage. Maybe since you brought
it up a sander to.

This is the 2-1/4" router bit I'm going to try.

justallan1 · February 07, 2018, 08:55:18 PM

I mean it in the nicest way, but I'd for darned sure try it's maiden voyage with a way smaller cutter than that, just to see what it's going to do.
If it weighs a few hundred pounds and everything is tight it should work if a guy takes his time, but if that thing tries to bite I'd sure want to be somewhere else. :D

Kbeitz · February 07, 2018, 09:26:53 PM

Quote from: justallan1 on February 07, 2018, 08:55:18 PM
I mean it in the nicest way, but I'd for darned sure try it's maiden voyage with a way smaller cutter than that, just to see what it's going to do.
If it weighs a few hundred pounds and everything is tight it should work if a guy takes his time, but if that thing tries to bite I'd sure want to be somewhere else. :D

Thanks.... I'll let you all know a day in advance before I try it.
It you don't here from me I guess you will know it did not work....

Kbeitz · February 07, 2018, 09:35:39 PM

I googled what was the best bit for the job and I came up with this.
But at $200.00 a pop I'm going to wait and try what I got.

Bed Skimming Router Bit.

Crusarius · February 08, 2018, 07:51:41 AM

that is weird the cutters are in 2 planes. I really be interested to see what kind of finish that leaves and how it works.

Machine tools are expensive.

Kbeitz · February 08, 2018, 09:54:51 AM

Quote from: Crusarius on February 08, 2018, 07:51:41 AM
that is weird the cutters are in 2 planes. I really be interested to see what kind of finish that leaves and how it works.

Machine tools are expensive.

If I knew the angles I could machine one. Guess I could guess from
the picture.

Larry · February 08, 2018, 10:33:51 AM

I have a similar cutter made by Byrd. It's a shaper pattern cutter but with the accessory top cutters I can cut an extremely smooth rabbet. Of course with the shaper spindle it wouldn't work for surfacing.

Years ago their was something made called the Wagner Saf-T-Planer. It was intended to be used in a drill press to surface boards. Think it was about 3" diameter. They can be found on ebay and their are also brand new clones being made. Unlike a router bit it doesn't require a lot of speed to work. I've seen one used but have no personal experience in the operation.

Kbeitz · February 08, 2018, 06:49:53 PM

Quote from: Larry on February 08, 2018, 10:33:51 AM
I have a similar cutter made by Byrd. It's a shaper pattern cutter but with the accessory top cutters I can cut an extremely smooth rabbet. Of course with the shaper spindle it wouldn't work for surfacing.

Years ago their was something made called the Wagner Saf-T-Planer. It was intended to be used in a drill press to surface boards. Think it was about 3" diameter. They can be found on ebay and their are also brand new clones being made. Unlike a router bit it doesn't require a lot of speed to work. I've seen one used but have no personal experience in the operation.

I had one of those. I even sold it on E-bay. There was no way
I was going to hold a board with my hands and use it.

Kbeitz · February 09, 2018, 05:01:12 AM

Anyone one have any recommendations on lube for the acme rod?
I'm thinking spray dry lube of some sort. The acme nuts are yellow
brass. I don't want the rods to rust and I don't want the sawdust
to stick on the rods and cause problems.

tmbrcruiser · February 09, 2018, 06:05:52 AM

I've been using Slick Stuff from Lowes on the mill drive chains and the raise and lower screw. Doesn't seem to draw dust like white spray grease.

Peter Drouin · February 09, 2018, 06:20:28 AM

Graphite.

Crusarius · February 09, 2018, 07:59:22 AM

There is a guy here that has an aerosol can with spray graphite lube. it works very well. but it does like to spread with contact.

Kbeitz · February 09, 2018, 10:13:13 AM

Man do I hate working with stainless. Drill speed to fast.
Welded it's self right fast.

Kbeitz · February 09, 2018, 10:16:36 AM

Stainless angle bearing plate. It's the only thing I had that was the right size.

Crusarius · February 09, 2018, 10:17:24 AM

Stainless you need to drill slooooooooow. Oil may help a little.

Have you got any coated bits or cobalt? They work little better to. That one looks like HSS?

Kbeitz · February 09, 2018, 10:31:29 AM

Quote from: Crusarius on February 09, 2018, 10:17:24 AM
Stainless you need to drill slooooooooow. Oil may help a little.

Have you got any coated bits or cobalt? They work little better to. That one looks like HSS?

All I had was HHS and some cement bits. I had to finish off that hole
with a cement bit. They had a carbide tips. I need to invest in some solid
carbite bits.

This stuff really helps. Ultra Lube High Performance Cutting Tool Lubricant

Ljohnsaw · February 09, 2018, 10:47:20 AM

Quote from: Kbeitz on February 09, 2018, 10:31:29 AM
All I had was HHS and some cement bits. I had to finish off that hole
with a cement bit. They had a carbide tips. I need to invest in some solid
carbide bits.

What? Wait! Kbeitz doesn't have something! ;)

Kbeitz · February 09, 2018, 11:05:05 AM

Quote from: ljohnsaw on February 09, 2018, 10:47:20 AM
Quote from: Kbeitz on February 09, 2018, 10:31:29 AM
All I had was HHS and some cement bits. I had to finish off that hole
with a cement bit. They had a carbide tips. I need to invest in some solid
carbide bits.
What? Wait! Kbeitz doesn't have something! ;)

Did you ever price cobalt or carbide bits...