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« Reply #220 on: November 04, 2021, 04:05:12 PM »
I would like to send them back to Richard, but you're dead on about the shipping costs.  I'll sure support Cutting Edge where I can, but if I can find someone locally who can do a decent job, I would really like to save the cost and hassle of shipping.

Which maybe leads back to my other option.  Just scrap the dull bands and only buy new....
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« Reply #221 on: November 04, 2021, 04:45:07 PM »
Maybe these guys in chesapeake: https://sure-set-saw.business.site/

Website is not very helpful except for phone number and address. 

Industrial grinding is a decent search term. Searching for sharpening seems to turn up knife and scissor guys. 

The place i use here is called Automatic Saw Filing. Been there for years. And looks like it.  Good place though. Excellent Stihl dealer. Not exactly in your neck o the woods however. You should have a lot more places down there but they usually dont have a high profile and can be hard to locate. 

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« Reply #222 on: November 04, 2021, 05:16:31 PM »
Tried sure set. Post 216
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« Reply #223 on: November 04, 2021, 05:41:25 PM »
Oh. Oops. When we get to a new page I lose track!  Id feel bad about it, but it seems to be the norm on the FF.  ;D  I guess food references will be showing up soon.  :D
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« Reply #224 on: November 05, 2021, 06:53:27 AM »
Had a local guy to sharpen blades but he retired.Have sent some to Woodmizer resharp . I don't have enough room to set up for sharpening.
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« Reply #225 on: November 08, 2021, 08:32:22 AM »
Thanks @Poquo

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« Reply #226 on: November 08, 2021, 08:34:13 AM »
Nothing done at my house this past weekend.  I headed to my buddy's place at Lake Anna to install a whole house dehumidifier and have a bit of R&R.








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« Reply #227 on: November 12, 2021, 05:13:11 PM »
The math definitely has to be in favor of buying sharpening equipment and dedicating the space.   For a hobby, getting blades sharpened makes sense.  I'd rather saw than sharpen but sharpening my own blades is a necessary evil.

I sharpen for a handful of hobbyist guys.  They have maybe half a dozen blades every month or so.  I'm happy to make a little folding money and they are happy to get blades sharpened close to home.  I did have to buy a 10 wheel but we worked out a way to cover that cost over a number of blades.  It normally takes about 10 minutes a blade to sharpen and set for them.  
kenne-saw.com  ,   The blades for my Logmaster LM4  are 1 1/2  x 7/8   .049     229 inches     (19 ft 1 inch)
The last time I bought new blades from them, they were $27.00 a piece  for 60 blades delivered to my door.
That was about three years ago but they still have the best deals going on new blades.   Munkfor Blades
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« Reply #228 on: November 16, 2021, 01:11:27 PM »

kenne-saw.com  ,   The blades for my Logmaster LM4  are 1 1/2  x 7/8   .049     229 inches     (19 ft 1 inch)
The last time I bought new blades from them, they were $27.00 a piece  for 60 blades delivered to my door.
That was about three years ago but they still have the best deals going on new blades.   Munkfor Blades
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So how do you handle resharpening services?  DIY, ship out or local person?

Kenne-saw's pricing for my blades seems promising so far...
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« Reply #229 on: November 23, 2021, 02:01:43 PM »
Kenne-Saw are good folks.  I have an older Wood-Mizer Sharpener, it works well enough for my 150 inch blades that my 20inch resaw uses 
but it really lacks the power to sharpen my mill blades.   It WILL sharpen them, but it takes about 5 or 6 passes to get them right.
 If I hit the face of the tooth to aggressively, it bogs the grind motor down and will stop it.
I have about 100 blades that I've run only one time and need sharpening.   My blades are  Inch and a Half X 7/8 X .049    229 inches long.
 I'm thinking hard about throwing the plastic down and pulling the trigger on a Cooks Cat Claw Sharpener and Dual Tooth Setter.
They come as a package with two free cams for $3290.00  and I suppose it's a Ben Franklin to ship it to me, so with a couple of shaping stones
 and a few new grind rocks  I'm looking at $3500.00 or more.
As far as Sharpening services go , I have never used them.    There is a guy in Mississippi called  Mr. Robert that does band blades on a Cooks set up as I described above.   He's on youtube and seems to know what he's doing.   I may send him a dozen to see how they run when he is done with them.
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« Reply #230 on: January 03, 2022, 10:21:43 AM »
Been a while since I posted actually sawing on this thread.  Had some time off and was able to knock out the rest of my log inventory, so I guess that makes me caught up LOL

Getting the logs out of the driveway feels pretty good.  There were three remaining.  Two oaks and a maple.  Oak was cut into 10/4 and 8/4 boards, maple was cut into 6/4 boards.  Practiced edging against a cant again.  Like it a lot.

The two halves of the short white oak in the side yard got turned into stickers and added to the stickers from another driveway oak.

I did the tedious work that just needed to be done.  I cut down all my stickers to 4ft and 2ft sections and pallet stacked them to dry.  Also, took all the blades I foolishly stored outside, put them back on the mill for a few passes to knock off all the rust, and now store them in the shed.  Thanks to all the guys at the meet and greet who made that suggestion.

Still have a bunch more firewood to process.  Have a couple neighbors coming this week for offcuts to process into their own firewood so I don't have to.  Also, I'm almost out of space to store green firewood.

Worked pretty steady for 4 days and, while I only milled 4 logs, I feel like I got a lot accomplished.  After the crazy weather is done midweek, I'll get rid of the offcuts, finish what firewood I can store for myself and clean up the side yard.

The friend down the road who gave me the white oak has more at his house.  We discussed that recently and I told him I'd be willing to give mobile sawing a try at his house at his expense for consumables and labor.  He's excited.  Sounds like he just wants everything flat sawn to build rustic benches for his mountain property.  It'll be interesting to see how that goes.  That's all the anticipated milling I've got in the immediate future.

Keeping an eye out for cedar to saw, but I'm thinking I'll turn down anything else that gets offered to me until spring.














































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« Reply #231 on: January 03, 2022, 09:22:03 PM »
Thanks for posting I learned enough to make the 12 pages well worthwhile!
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« Reply #232 on: January 04, 2022, 08:26:23 AM »
Thanks for posting I learned enough to make the 12 pages well worthwhile!

You are very welcome.  Glad to know someone is reading about my shenanigans.

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« Reply #233 on: January 07, 2022, 08:01:06 AM »
Got things cleaned up.  Trailer is loaded with a bunch of offcuts to go to a neighbor for fire pit wood.  Supposed to come by this afternoon and pick it up.  Mill yard is raked and organized.  The firewood pile I'm processing and keeping is almost finished.  Probably will borrow a hydraulic splitter for the rest.  There's some gnarly pieces left that won't axe split.

Another neighbor gave me a 12x20ft carport.  Ideally it takes 4ppl to setup.  Still not sure I'm going to use it, but he really wanted me to have it and it was free.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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« Reply #234 on: January 07, 2022, 08:28:15 AM »
Also, a bit of a funny story....

Last weekend, while milling my last log in the front yard, my across the street neighbor stopped by for a chat.  He's a great guy.  Runs all the maintenance operations for a local dine-in movie theater chain.  Always working in his shop or yard.

We were talking about how I got through all the logs in the driveway, all the milling I've been doing, what's been going on at his job, etc etc.  He noted that I must have a ton of lumber stacked by now.  I said that I certainly did and to take a peak behind the fence in the side yard.  He walks over, and yells "Where's the rest of it...on the other side of the house???"
I said that its all here on this side and he must have read the confused look on my face.  "I thought with all the sawing you've been doing, there would be way more than this...this doesn't seem like a lot at all....are you sure you're doing it right?"

I told him I think my yield was pretty good, I needed to get back to sawing and to have a  :new_year: ::)
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« Reply #235 on: January 07, 2022, 08:30:49 AM »
You certainly make good use of limited space. Neighbors don't complain about noise when you are sawing?
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« Reply #236 on: January 07, 2022, 08:50:12 AM »
You certainly make good use of limited space. Neighbors don't complain about noise when you are sawing?

I try to optimize as best I can...

I have good relationships with our surrounding immediate 6 neighbors (next door, across the street and backyard neighbors).  3 of those neighbors have garage shops and are always doing some project or home improvement.  Most other neighbors know me and my level of shenanigans...if they have any issues, they haven't expressed them to me.  They all think its pretty cool.

I try to be mindful when I run the mill an/or chainsaw.  I try and mill behind the fence in the side yard rather than the driveway/front yard.  Seems like the less people who know I have a sawmill in a suburban environment, the better IMO.

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« Reply #237 on: January 18, 2022, 11:26:46 AM »
The friend down the road who gave me the white oak has more at his house.  We discussed that recently and I told him I'd be willing to give mobile sawing a try at his house at his expense for consumables and labor.  He's excited.  Sounds like he just wants everything flat sawn to build rustic benches for his mountain property.  It'll be interesting to see how that goes.  That's all the anticipated milling I've got in the immediate future.

So I gave mobile sawing a whirl this past Friday and Saturday.  We certainly didn't break any production records.  We just got a few guys together and had a good time with some sawing and stacking in between.

Nothing was staged or easy to get to.  We spent a fair bit of time getting the logs to the mill without any equipment other than cant hooks, 6ft pipes and the mill trailer winch.  Most of the logs were too large in diameter for the mill so there was a lot of cheating over the log stops and cutting, rotating evolutions.  6 logs total with one getting cut for stickers.

Everyone had fun, got a taste of the experience and time commitment of operating a manual mill, no one got hurt and nothing broke.

We'll see what happens to the lumber.  There was no cut list, and I wasn't sawing for max board footage. I explained multiple times how the stack should look, what an ideal base should look like, sticker spacing etc etc.  No one listened to any of that and the stack looks like a total disaster.  However, I got a little spoiled knowing that the mess I left behind and the status of the drying stack aren't my problem!  I put the mill back on the truck, picked up my tools and I was outta there!  I really like that part of mobile sawing. 8)



 



 



 



 



 



 



 

 

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The friend down the road who gave me the white oak has more at his house.  We discussed that recently and I told him I'd be willing to give mobile sawing a try at his house at his expense for consumables and labor.  He's excited.  Sounds like he just wants everything flat sawn to build rustic benches for his mountain property.  It'll be interesting to see how that goes.  That's all the anticipated milling I've got in the immediate future.
... I explained multiple times how the stack should look, what an ideal base should look like, sticker spacing etc etc.  No one listened to any of that and the stack looks like a total disaster...
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