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Health and Safety => Health and Safety => Topic started by: Magicman on August 07, 2011, 10:52:54 AM

Title: Hips
Post by: Magicman on August 07, 2011, 10:52:54 AM
A first for me.  Sitting and driving to the Pig Roast really played havoc, especially to my right hip.  When I stopped, I could hardly walk at first.  At other times while driving, I had to shift my butt around to relieve the pain.   :-\

I don't have time for this crap.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: BBTom on August 07, 2011, 11:06:59 AM
Make certain that you do not have your wallet in a hip pocket when driving any distance.  The extra thickness at that spot will relocate your hip joint into a much less comfortable position.

Been there, Done that, Didn't like it.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Texas Ranger on August 07, 2011, 11:11:03 AM
Listen, young fella, it just gets worse.  A one hour drive now costs several minutes to get everything working/not hurting, again. :-\
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: shelbycharger400 on August 07, 2011, 12:04:47 PM
if you have to relocate your wallet, sounds like you have too much money in thier. ;D
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Magicman on August 07, 2011, 01:06:15 PM
Nope, not the wallet.  It's flat anyway.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Troublermaker on August 07, 2011, 01:11:54 PM
It hell getting old isn't it?
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: doctorb on August 07, 2011, 01:51:55 PM
Hip pain due to hip joint arthritis is usually located right in the front of the hip.  I mean the groin.  If the hip pain is on the side, it is most likely a trochanteric bursitis, and can be treated with anti-inflamatories or a cortisone shot.  Hip pain at the back or the hip, or butt, is usually related to back maladies and is not really hip joint pain at all. 

So, where's the pain?  If it's in the front, it's x-ray time.  If it's on the outside, take some Advil and quit your whining.  If it's in the back of the hip or butt, it's really your spine and, depepndent upon how bad it is, you may need to see someone.  At least you got to GO to the pig roast! ;) :)
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: beenthere on August 07, 2011, 02:01:04 PM
Many thanks for that info Doc. Answers the question going around in my mind when hearing about hip ops including yours.
I've likened my pain to a muscle pull or muscle cramp that doesn't let up.  But I'll hit the advil if it becomes unbearable.  :)
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: doctorb on August 07, 2011, 03:18:29 PM
Beenthere-

Does your cramping pain develop in your butt when you are walking or doing something strenuous, only to let up when you rest?   That type of pain can be vascular in origin.  Let me know. I am headed to the movies!
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Magicman on August 07, 2011, 04:51:52 PM
It did not affect my Pig eating ability at all.   digin1

My pain is very low in the butt and in the back side, about half way between the side and crack.  Not the side or front at all.  It has been the right hip, but it is the left today.   :-\

Title: Re: Hips
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 07, 2011, 04:57:06 PM
Well, you need more piggy. Not enough padding on the old bones. ;)
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: beenthere on August 07, 2011, 06:57:44 PM
Quote from: Magicman on August 07, 2011, 04:51:52 PM
It did not affect my Pig eating ability at all.   digin1

My pain is very low in the butt and in the back side, about half way between the side and crack.  Not the side or front at all.  It has been the right hip, but it is the left today.   :-\



'cause yer headin south?

SD
Just hope yours doesn't come too early in life. ;)
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Left Coast Chris on August 07, 2011, 08:35:45 PM
For about 6 months or a year I had a tender hip after driving where it was difficult to put weight on it after getting out and trying to stand.   The pain was kind of in the center inside.  I got relief by putting my foot up on the tire and flexing the hip forward and stretching the front tendons for quite some time (maybe 5 min straignt).  I also stretched the groin by keeping one leg straignt and doing a deep knee bend with the other to the side from a standing position.    It has now gone away on its own.    Might try some stretching to see if it helps.  I also take glucosimine and condroitin tablets.  Not sure if they help or not.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Magicman on August 07, 2011, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: Left Coast Chris on August 07, 2011, 08:35:45 PM
The pain was kind of in the center inside. 

I think that your description is maybe better than mine.  Deep and in the center.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: doctorb on August 07, 2011, 09:20:31 PM
OK guys, your descriptions are NOT good enough!  It can hurt deep inside your hip / pelvis, but your symptoms are usually groin (front), side (like where you'd give somebody a hip check!, or the butt(back).  So, which is it? 
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Woodwalker on August 07, 2011, 09:38:21 PM
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take some Advil and quit your whining. 
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My Doc says take Motrin, works better on the whine.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Magicman on August 07, 2011, 10:06:00 PM
Quote from: Magicman on August 07, 2011, 04:51:52 PM
My pain is very low in the butt and in the back side, about half way between the side and crack.  Not the side or front at all.  

I hate to quote myself, but I can't say it much better than that.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 08, 2011, 04:05:22 AM
Quote from: beenthere on August 07, 2011, 06:57:44 PM
SD
Just hope yours doesn't come too early in life. ;)

Oh well, I'll enjoy the ride before everything falls apart I guess.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: doctorb on August 08, 2011, 08:12:38 AM
Magic-

If it's low in your butt it's either nerve root related - sciatica - or sacroiliac joint in origin.  That's an unusual location for hip joint pathology to hurt.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: jim king on August 08, 2011, 10:40:15 AM
I think it is just a pain in the a$$
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 08, 2011, 04:07:18 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: beenthere on August 08, 2011, 04:35:53 PM
Quote from: doctorb on August 07, 2011, 03:18:29 PM
Beenthere-

Does your cramping pain develop in your butt when you are walking or doing something strenuous, only to let up when you rest?   That type of pain can be vascular in origin.  Let me know. I am headed to the movies!

DrB
Pain right at the hip pocket/belt line. Not when walking or doing work, but after sitting for a stretch at the computer, or long drive in car.

Pain in the ar$ for sure. ;)
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: doctorb on August 08, 2011, 07:10:53 PM
When the pain comes do you feel a little numbness on the outside of your thigh, like where you would slap your thigh?
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: beenthere on August 08, 2011, 08:11:56 PM
No numbness  (you did mean numbness and not dumbness, right?  ;D ). Please say yes.  ;)

Pain not sharp, more like a bruise would feel. Walk about, and it goes away.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: doctorb on August 08, 2011, 09:33:11 PM
You've stumped me!  If it goes away, don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: WDH on August 08, 2011, 09:42:17 PM
My hip pain is definitely on the side right where you can feel the joint with your hand, so I will take some advil and whine about something else  :).  I have been a little worried about it as my Dad had both hips replaced and after hearing about your travails, Dr.B. 

MM,

You were getting around pretty good at the Roast, but that might have been due to some of that Raider Bill Lemonade  ???  ::)  ;D  :D  ;)  :-\.  (I got a lesson in smiley production from Meadows Miller at the Pig Roast, so I thought that I would practice a little  :) :) :) :) ;) ;) :D ;D :D ::) ::))
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: thecfarm on August 08, 2011, 10:00:35 PM
Good thing no one put the grits to him.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: WDH on August 08, 2011, 10:06:06 PM
thecfarm,

I told a grits story about you at the Pig Roast.  You had better come next year to protect your honor and to protect your anti-grittyness  :D.  Us Southern boys might corrupt the Northern food chain  ;D.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Magicman on August 09, 2011, 07:29:12 AM
Quote from: doctorb on August 08, 2011, 09:33:11 PM
If it goes away, don't worry about it. 

That is the diagnosis that I like.  Yes, it will change around a bit, quit, and then hurt differently next time depending upon my activity or inactivity.  Sitting and driving has really aggravated my old bones.

We made a good loop through Northeastern Michigan ( not U.P.) yesterday and saw some beautiful and unusual sights.  I had to "walk off" that right hip when we got back to Harrison.  Today will be another trip in a different direction.  :)
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: doctorb on August 09, 2011, 09:30:06 AM
Maybe I should have a medical booth at next year's pig roast.  We could x-Ray all you guys that got so sore making the trip. :D :D
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Bro. Noble on August 09, 2011, 10:38:28 AM
Well, I think the problem in pinning down the problem with aches in old people who have done a lot of physical work is that it may likely be more than one problem :(  I've had a couple of rounds with sciatic nerve damage know how it feels and that it takes a long long time to go away.  That's the cramping feeling in the butt, and numbness in the legs sometimes down to the toes.  I had X-rays for a stomach problem one time and the technician said she didn't see any problem. but she asked if I knew I had arthritis in my hips.  I assured her that I did.  Everytime I go up a step I am reminded :(  What helps me is to put my wallet in my front pocket while driving,  taking frequent breaks on a trip, taking aleve when I need it.  If I could lose about 20 lbs.  I'm sure that would help also.

I deleted a comment about preventing these problems before I even posted it because some people don't understand my sense of humor and might have thought I was serious.  It was about 'that Danged Aberham Lincoln' ;) 
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Norm on August 09, 2011, 01:14:28 PM
Years of hard work do take their toll on our bodies. I had to go see my GP and was commenting it started when we were doing hay and got worse a week later doing much the same. She looked at me and stated why do you do that to yourself especially at your age. I had several comments on the tip of my tongue but bit hard on it instead.  :D
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 09, 2011, 03:40:45 PM
They always say it's good to talk it out Norm.  :-X :D ;D
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: red on August 09, 2011, 04:13:45 PM
my dr keeps it real simple  i told him it hurts when i lift above my head  he told me not to do that any more
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Magicman on August 09, 2011, 08:47:00 PM
We made another round today in Northern Michigan.  Mackinaw City area and Mackinac Island.  Those 1½-2 hour drives are not as easy as they once were.  Eastern U.P. is tomorrow's destination.   :)
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: pigman on August 09, 2011, 09:18:04 PM
Be careful over in the eastern UP. Jeff's bear is over there and it will make you forget about the sore hip.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 10, 2011, 04:59:40 AM
You could always retreat up Jeff's tree stand, but I'm not sure there isn't a hornet's nest in there or if the door will keep the bear out. The stand isn't far from the bait station. :D
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: shelbycharger400 on August 10, 2011, 10:34:48 PM
what ya need  is one of those heated beds to lay on.  you plug it into the 110v.
i forgot what they are called, it has around 300 jade ceramic tiles in them .  my mother bought one from the timber frame guy (dave) who built her cabin,  also was a licenced massage therapist in long prarie

those uv beds are weird, it heats you from the inside out.  after bout an hour or so, all your muscles are relaxed! even tension headaches are gone.

Bad part ... over $700
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Magicman on August 16, 2011, 01:33:58 PM
It looks like when I sit for maybe 30 minutes or more, my hip bones must be pinching a nerve or cutting off blood circulation or something.  When I stand my leg can hardly hold my weight up.  When I walk a bit the pain subsides.  This has begun in the last couple of months.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: doctorb on August 16, 2011, 05:22:29 PM
If I had to guess, it sounds like spinal stenosis could also be the culprit.  You need an examination.
Title: Re: Hips
Post by: Magicman on August 16, 2011, 08:36:38 PM
Yup, I guess that I had better get checked out.   :-\    Whatever it is needs to be identified.

"Spinal Stenosis Pain in Older Patients

Spinal stenosis is related to degeneration in the spine and usually will become significant in the 5th decade of life and extend throughout every subsequent age group. Most patients first visit their doctor with symptoms of spinal stenosis at about age 60 or so. Patients need only seek treatment for lumbar spinal stenosis if they no longer wish to live with significant activity limitations, such as leg pain and/or difficulty with walking."