The Forestry Forum

General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: slider on December 07, 2014, 04:28:42 AM

Title: cleanup
Post by: slider on December 07, 2014, 04:28:42 AM
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14302/001~41.JPG) It's cleanup time.One more big pile after this.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Chuck White on December 07, 2014, 07:15:56 AM
What are you cleaning up, Slider?

Cleaning up after a sawjob, or just getting rid of a pile of slab & sawdust, limbs etc.

Looks like you're doing ok, got plenty of bare dirt around the fire, so not much chance of spreading.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: WDH on December 07, 2014, 07:26:35 AM
Did you get a burn permit?  :D
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: drobertson on December 07, 2014, 07:44:45 AM
Need to do the same here, waiting for the right time, been too windy here, that one looks like its going up good
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: bandmiller2 on December 07, 2014, 07:59:39 AM
Seem like a waste of perfectly good BTU's, but its nice to be able to do it. Frank C.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Magicman on December 07, 2014, 08:21:56 AM
That is one of the reasons that I saw "portable'.  I do not have an area available to handle the slabs/sawdust.  I saw it and leave the mess for the customer to clean up and burn.

Frank, with an abundance of hardwood and the small amount of firewood needed, very few if anyone burns Pine slabs for firewood. 
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/2410/DSCN1083.JPG)
Here a customer is burning slabs while I am sawing.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: slider on December 07, 2014, 08:26:02 AM
Chuck just cleaning up the log yard.slabs and sawdust from several saw jobs.

Permit #990986 smarty pants.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: slider on December 07, 2014, 08:30:42 AM
You are right Frank but I don't burn it all.The good stuff heats part of my house and the pool room.I would love to put together a kiln that uses wood waste.It is my understanding that pine can be dried that way.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: acrosteve on December 07, 2014, 08:36:01 AM
That is one of the reasons that I saw "portable'.  I do not have an area available to handle the slabs/sawdust.  I saw it and leave the mess for the customer to clean up and burn.

Frank, with an abundance of hardwood and the small amount of firewood needed, very few if anyone burns Pine slabs for firewood. 
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/2410/DSCN1083.JPG)
Here a customer is burning slabs while I am sawing.

Seems a little sketchy that close to the phone cable.   :D
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Magicman on December 07, 2014, 08:42:27 AM
Quote
Seems a little sketchy that close to the phone cable.   :D
That picture is depth deceiving.  Remember that I worked for 32+ years for a telephone co.  ;D
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 07, 2014, 09:28:50 AM
THAT FIRE SURE LIGHTS UP THE SKY AT 4:48:42 AM.  :D
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: slider on December 07, 2014, 09:39:38 AM
It was lit up pretty good at 3.30 am when I got up to check on it David.I started to PM you and let you know that that red glow was not a UFO crash just east of you.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 07, 2014, 09:52:49 AM
It was lit up pretty good at 3.30 am when I got up to check on it David.I started to PM you and let you know that that red glow was not a UFO crash just east of you.

 :D
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 07, 2014, 10:14:33 AM
DHEC / State of Georgia
Atlanta Office

Dear Mr. Slider,
We have attempted to locate your burn notification / permit number of : #990986
According to our records, said number was never issued and does not exist.
We have attempted to locate you for further action and have come to the conclusion that…….
   you do not exist.
Please accept our apologies.
We consider this matter closed.

Old Goat
Smoke Management Control
DHEC Atlanta Georgia
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Small Slick on December 07, 2014, 11:55:54 AM
Quote
Seems a little sketchy that close to the phone cable.   :D
That picture is depth deceiving.  Remember that I worked for 32+ years for a telephone co.  ;D

The wife of a good customer cleaned out the shed and lit the burn pile right under the overhead wires to the house. So call the electrician on a Saturday to fix it. John.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Magicman on December 07, 2014, 02:19:05 PM
During my time working for the man, I saw many cables melted by burning brush piles.  :-\
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: kelLOGg on December 07, 2014, 06:36:38 PM
Before:
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13036/slabs~1.jpg)
After:
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13036/chips.jpg)
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 07, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/mill_yard_008.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/004~5.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/001~7.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/002~7.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/003~5.JPG) 
Then get paid  :D :D :D
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: customsawyer on December 07, 2014, 08:19:19 PM
Al that's one way to keep warm in this long hard winter. ;D
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Larry on December 07, 2014, 08:44:11 PM
I had this really big slab pile because it was mostly pine, with a little cedar, and hardwood sprinkled in.  The slab hounds were turning up there noses.  The charcoal plant won't take pine and cedar has to be hid in with the hardwood.  Burn permits not issued in Arkansas so I was thinking I could get that special #990986 from south Georgia.  About a month ago an elderly couple (way older than me) showed up on my doorstep and wanted to know if they could have some slabs.  Sure, all you want.  I figured that would take a couple and I would never see them again.  Was I ever wrong.  They showed up almost everyday and hauled off the whole pile.  I felt bad they had no more to haul so I went down in the hollar and brought four or five loads up that I had dropped there.

Now get this.  The Misses made me a beautiful quilt in appreciation of me giving them slabs.  I couldn't believe it.  A payback 100 times over for what I did for them.

I've bundled hardwood slabs for a year now to make it easy to get rid of them.  Guess who gets first pick from here on out.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: drobertson on December 11, 2014, 08:19:34 PM
A chipper would be pretty handy, always planned on having one, but not yet, so this is the clean up on unsellable slabs,
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/30023/IMGA0045.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/30023/IMGA0047.JPG)
final check just a few minutes ago, all is good, thankful for no wind and wet conditions
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 11, 2014, 08:46:43 PM
Nice, but your missing the snow this time of year. :D ;)
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: red oaks lumber on December 11, 2014, 09:16:47 PM
this time of year we are sellin $400/ week in slabs :)
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: jmouton on December 11, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
      hey slider ,  that looks like one of my regular  bonfires i have for  my parties i throw togather,,,nice one
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: stoverguy on December 12, 2014, 10:43:13 AM
The slab subject seems to come up from time to time. I'm pretty small and only cut when I get my hands on free logs, but piling up the slabs and burning them was always "extra work." I noticed several of the people on this site used the "free pile" approach so I thought why not I'll give it a try. I've probably set out 20+ forklift loads of slabs now. Species varies highly as I cut whatever I can get my hands on, but the longest a load has ever sat out was a day and a half. I couldn't believe it, one day I set a load out, went back to load another and the first one was already gone. People are hurting out there. This last weekend I set out a load of slabs and edging trim. An old gentleman with a van and a wheelchair lift stopped to pick up the load. Mostly cottonwood. I felt bad that I didn't have anything better to offer but he still came up to me to thank me. I know we end up with so much it seems worthless to us but if it isn't too much of an extra effort it is still worth something to someone. The most popular I set out is the Cedar because its already close to kindling. One fellow that stopped to pick up a pile of it was thrilled. He built birdhouses as a way to supplement his retirement. Bark on Cedar with one cut side was a godsend to him. Couldn't thank me enough.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 12, 2014, 11:29:32 AM
this time of year we are sellin $400/ week in slabs :)

How do you sell it, by the bundle? Do you load, or let them load? Is it sorted by softwood/hardwood, or just a mix? Where I used to work I would bundle right in the slab rack. 4'x4'x whatever length. If sawing 16' lumber, that's two cords. Sometimes the LULL would hardly lift it. We delivered some bundles with the F550, but never had much interest. I could just picture someone coming in in nice shiny pickup wanting a 4,000 pound bundle dropped in the bed. :o :D
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 12, 2014, 12:40:54 PM
this time of year we are sellin $400/ week in slabs :)

How do you sell it, by the bundle? Do you load, or let them load? Is it sorted by softwood/hardwood, or just a mix? Where I used to work I would bundle right in the slab rack. 4'x4'x whatever length. If sawing 16' lumber, that's two cords. Sometimes the LULL would hardly lift it. We delivered some bundles with the F550, but never had much interest. I could just picture someone coming in in nice shiny pickup wanting a 4,000 pound bundle dropped in the bed. :o :D



I keep about 20 bundles, But they don't move fast. That's why I chip.
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCF0085.JPG)
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: drobertson on December 12, 2014, 12:55:37 PM
Slabs and sawdust are without a doubt going to pile up if not sold, chipped or burnt.  I've found a pretty good average of a slab bundle to be in the neighborhood of 15 logs or so, this includes the edgings as well.  As of my last sale the pine was selling for 15 bucks a ton, and the oak at 16 bucks a ton.  not a bad net for scrap, I have at least another semi load ready to go to the charcoal kiln, these were just stragglers that were a pain, plus is fuels for the rest of the debris that adds up through sawing.  I still believe a chipper is the way to go, always have, one day I will hopefully have one.  Keep in mind that many of the finer slabs from straight logs will be separated for a local wood worker,  and most of these are from pine, the bark slips nicely and the end product is pretty slick, it just requires a uniform end to end thickness, with some knots acceptable. 
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 12, 2014, 07:56:42 PM
Slabs and sawdust are without a doubt going to pile up if not sold, chipped or burnt.  I've found a pretty good average of a slab bundle to be in the neighborhood of 15 logs or so, this includes the edgings as well.  As of my last sale the pine was selling for 15 bucks a ton, and the oak at 16 bucks a ton.  not a bad net for scrap, I have at least another semi load ready to go to the charcoal kiln, these were just stragglers that were a pain, plus is fuels for the rest of the debris that adds up through sawing.  I still believe a chipper is the way to go, always have, one day I will hopefully have one.  Keep in mind that many of the finer slabs from straight logs will be separated for a local wood worker,  and most of these are from pine, the bark slips nicely and the end product is pretty slick, it just requires a uniform end to end thickness, with some knots acceptable. 




It's good to have different markets like that. What is a [charcoal kiln]?
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: drobertson on December 13, 2014, 07:42:17 AM
Peter, there is a company named Royal Oak which manufactures the charcoal briquettes we use in our grills. They have  acres and acres of slabs that when dried to a certain point, are put into a fire chamber and charred down to lumps then shipped to the processing plant that makes the final briquette.
Title: Re: cleanup
Post by: Swatson on December 13, 2014, 08:22:48 AM
Peter, there is a company named Royal Oak which manufactures the charcoal briquettes we use in our grills. They have  acres and acres of slabs that when dried to a certain point, are put into a fire chamber and charred down to lumps then shipped to the processing plant that makes the final briquette.

You aint kidding Drobertson.  I live about 15 miles away from that plant near Huntsville, AR.  Ive never seen so many slabs in my life.  A couple miles down the road they have started another field of slabs.  It would be interesting to know how many bundles they can process in a week.