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Started by TomFromStLouis, June 30, 2004, 07:10:57 PM

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TomFromStLouis

Hi.

I have lurked here for a few months as I crank up my urban logging business. I finally have something to share for all the knowledge I have gleened from this place, so here goes.

My approach to recycling trees is a little different than most I have read about. I do not own a saw. But I did manage to score a big log haulin' truck:



90% of what we pick up (we are a "log disposal business" thankyouverymuch) we sell to a pallet/tie mill or a grade mill. The other 10% gets sawn by a guy who comes to us once a month or so. But what I really wanted to show you is the just completed solar kiln. It is 18' long outside and ideally could hold maybe 2000bf. My first load is walnut but many boards are 12' or so which made the stack have a few air pockets. I figure it has maybe 1300-1500bf in there.



It has a double layer of polycarbonate with white oak exterior and 3/8" ply over a triple layer of that solid pink foam board stuff. Lots of paint. It still needs some flashing. Here is a pic showing the fixed solar panel and air flow with curtains installed:



You did not know it, but this forum was a big help in getting the kiln done. Thanks!



Tom

Man!  I'm sure glad to see that you joined. That's the kind of entrepreneur operation that echoes this forum.  We have lots of guys who dove in blind, worked hard and invented as they went.  It's tough but satisfying.

That operation sure makes me proud to meet your acquaintance. :)

Welcome aboard.

Bibbyman

Welcome to the FF TomFromStLouis.  
Wood-Mizer LT40HDE25 Super 25hp 3ph with Command Control and Accuset.
Sawing since '94

chet

Glad ya decided to jump in St. Loui Tom. I think you will be  real happy with your kiln. Solar kilns are not very fast, but I have gotten very good results from mine.
I am a true TREE HUGGER, if I didnt I would fall out!  chet the RETIRED arborist

oakiemac

Welcome tom,

Nice truck and nice kiln. I could use one of each.
Mobile Demension sawmill, Bobcat 873 loader, 3 dry kilns and a long "to do" list.

sandmar

Welcome Tom
Hey I would give a hunnerd dollers for that truck and not even kick the tires  ;D WOW what a rig!

Sandmar

dewwood

Hello and welcome aboard!  You have some nice looking equipment.
Selling hardwood lumber, doing some sawing and drying, growing the next generation of trees and enjoying the kids and grandkids.

smwwoody

Full time Mill Manager
Cleereman head rig
Cooper Scragg
McDonugh gang saw
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McDonugh resaw
TS end trim
Pendu slab recovery system
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ronwood

Tom,
Welcome to the forum. Will need to stop by and take a look  at the kiln sometime.   8)

Ron  
Sawing part time mostly urban logs -St. Louis/Warrenton, Mo.
LT40HG25 Woodmizer Sawmill
LX885 New Holland Skidsteer

CHARLIE

Welcome StLouisTom!  We sure have a bunch from Missouri now. More than the bunch from Texas I think.
Charlie
"Everybody was gone when I arrived but I decided to stick around until I could figure out why I was there !"

mhasel

Welcome Tom,

Looks like you have the kiln setup I hope to have by next year, very nice looking job there!!

Mike

Percy

 ;D ;D ;DWelcome TFStL ;D ;D ;D
GOLDEN RULE : The guy with the gold, makes the rules.

ARKANSAWYER

  Welcome,  Now we need spec's on that truck,  How much can you lift and haul and such.  Nice kiln and looks like a fine job on it.  Is it built from wood you salvaged?
ARKANSAWYER
ARKANSAWYER

Patty

NICE TRUCK!  8)   nice kiln, too.

Welcome to the forum. Looks like you've already figured out the many benefits of hanging out here. Glad to have you join us.  :)
Women are Angels.
And when someone breaks our wings....
We simply continue to fly ........
on a broomstick.....
We are flexible like that.

woodhaven

Welcome,
With that truck and kiln all you need now is a saw. That truck would look good setting beside a big old 52" circular mill like a few of us run. It sure would look good beside mine.
You Gotta Have A Saw.
Richard

TomFromStLouis

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone. I guess that means it would be silly for me to say I already screwed up - I meant to post in the drying forum that has been helpful to me in building the kiln!  ::) Oh well.

The truck is a new Peterbilt. Model number escapes me but it has a 315 hp Cummins in it and has done everything we asked so far. The crane can lift 8000 pounds 10' out, so it has yet to meet a log it could not put on the bunks. Once or twice we had to lift one end at a time, but if we want it, we can haul it. A full load might be 3000bf, but we have had up to 4000 on there (don't tell the DOT). 67k for the truck, another 35k for the crane installed. Monthly payments a little over $2000, which means we gotta keep finding logs or the bank will own my house. Wifey would not be happy with that - she already mentioned it.

Anyway, we recycled over 200,000 bf in our first 6 months and we keep finding people who like free log disposal of any species. It is going to work.

As for the saw, I am tempted. And of course this forum would vote that way. But I am keeping my day job and my driver has no time, so since we would need a sawyer too, paying for turnkey piecework as needed just makes businesss sense. Now, a forklift would be nice...

We aren't doing this the same way everyone else is but it seems like the right answer at this time. Once we get some dry lumber to sell, the numbers should come together pretty well. And yes Arky, that kiln is our lumber except for the plywood.

oldsaw

BTW, Charlie, for you info, I'm a Minnesota boy who lives in Missouri.

Feel better now?

So many trees, so little money, even less time.

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