Scrounged wood ID?

[ReggieT]

Hey Guys,

Got bored and broke out the 025 & 034 and did some wood scrounging. Cut some blow down Red Oak and another tree...I need your help identifying. Is it Beech, Elm, Silver Maple...? ??? :P

 
It was a heck of a lot easier to cut & much lighter to load than the smaller chunks of Red Oak!
The last pic is the Red Oak blow down...

Thanks,
Reg


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[thecfarm]

If that 2nd picture was on my land I would say maple. Looks just like the heart of it too in the 3rd picture on the right.

[gfadvm]

That non oak looks a lot like hackberry from here.

[SwampDonkey]

Young silver or even red maple.

Beech is hard as oak.

[LeeB]

Looks to me like what I known as cedar elm.

[Rockn H]

These guys are much better at identifying trees than me, but the last two pics had me thinking cherry.

[goose63]

Looks like the hackberry logs I have by the wood pile

[SwampDonkey]

Hackberry is almost non existent in AL.

[Dodgy Loner]

Hackberry is almost non existent in AL.

But sugarberry (Celtis laevigata) is fairly common. I'm going to have to go with sugarberry on this one.

[LeeB]

oes sugarberry have the warts on the bark like hackberry does? I always thought they were pretty much one and the same. Guess not.

[SwampDonkey]

Bark in the second photo looks like red maple more than any of the other pictures. But I just looked up sugarberry, a species I'm not familiar with, and it certainly would fit. ;D

[Dodgy Loner]

oes sugarberry have the warts on the bark like hackberry does? I always thought they were pretty much one and the same. Guess not.

Sugarberry bark can range from being as smooth as beech to being covered in warts up to an inch thick.

[WDH]

It is very sugarberryish looking to me too.  It looks ring porous from the end grain pic.  Maple is not ring porous, but rather diffuse porous.  Hackberry/sugarberry is ring porous.  The end grain will solve the mystery. 

Lee, sugarberry and hackberry are very difficult to tell apart.  You have to look at the fruit peduncle.  I just look at them as just one and the same and don't worry about it.  Both are spiral grain and will twist and contort when flatsawn (sorry Hackberry Jake, it is good that you were quartersawn  ) anyway, so a little difference in the peduncle length is not a big deal   ;D. 

When is the last time that you looked at a fruit peduncle anyway?  Probably not since the last Pig Roast  :D.

[LeeB]

Is it legal to go around looking at fruit peduncles? :D I still think it looks like Cedar Elm based on the bark inclusion. Too much red in it for me to call it Hack/Sugarberry.

[Rockn H]

Y'all have got me looking at Sugarberry and Hackberry pics, but I still see an old Black Cherry.

[Red Clay Hound]

I did not learn about peduncles in engineering school. ???

[SwampDonkey]

Sounds like a real predicament to me.  8) ;D

[WDH]

Black cherry would have red heartwood. 

How many of you went and looked up peduncle?  :D :D

[thecfarm]

peduncle,kinda like what the berries of Elder Berries grow on. Poke Berries too.
I'm a learning,but I think I am forgetting faster than I am a learning.  ;D

[LeeB]

I did not.  :

[Rockn H]

 :-[  While I've cut some Black Cherry that had to air out before you could see any heartwood, I take back all my comments... I just reread the OP and realized the last pic is of the Red Oak.... I was looking at the wrong bark  :-\  :

[WDH]

I did not.  :

Oh yes you did  :D. 

[LeeB]

No, I truly did not.

[Dodgy Loner]

I did not.  :

Oh yes you did  :D.

I didn't either, but I didn't need to

[WDH]

Dodgy,

I am sure that you have seen a peduncle or two in your time  :D.