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Current Cedar Stumpage Price in South Central Missouri?

Started by MesquiteSawyer, April 10, 2014, 01:34:24 PM

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MesquiteSawyer

 


Shortlogger, you are correct!  Far cry from a 15" log.   Maybe 15' tall is what he meant.   

Thecfarm, I am attempting to post that pic here.  Thank you for the lesson!

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mesquite buckeye

They look just right for pruning. Easier to fell and makes clear lumber. ;D
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

ozarkgem

Quote from: CCC4 on April 19, 2014, 08:36:16 AM
Quote from: ozarkgem on April 19, 2014, 07:01:12 AM
Quote from: Cedarman on April 19, 2014, 05:39:55 AM
We pay 95 per ton.  The last 2 days had about 85 ton come in on 3 trucks.  Two were a touch overloaded.  One mill in Ky is paying 105 per ton, but they have to be good quality and bucked to 8', nothing smaller than 5".
by the ton is a lot easier its just everybody here is much smaller production. I think there is a mill a the Lake of the Ozarks that does Cedar trinkets for the tourist and they probably go by the ton. They take small stuff. How many BF in a ton on the average?

Hey are you South enough to bring your logs to Gainesville? If you sell 52" Giles and Kendell is your way to go. i never cut much for them, I was always contracted out further South....but I have slipped some in up there when cutting near the Missouri border. Also they pay better for over size but are really really picky about ingrown bark seems in the butts..they will only scale from the butt end, inside the bark seams. Their bigger stuff can bring a premium but they don't want more than like 5 or 6 knots per viewable side. I heard on the radio that Giles is needing cedar....when they have a yard full though, they really get tough if they don't know you.

If you turn the trinkets over you will probably find a China sticker on the bottom. That stuff is hauled out 30 miles off International waters and sawn on ships and turned right back around and sold at Wally World in tourist traps. I'm sure some is processed in the States though, we have a company here that manufactures various dowel rods, fragrance balls and shoe stretchers.

Board footage on ERC by the load will vary so much I wouldn't even want to guess. If you weigh "soda pop bottled" field cedar....there is going to be waaay more weight than yield.
I really don't sell any logs. I hoard them. I just don't see working my butt off and then getting to the mill and they start nit picking and docking for everything. I have a mill so I just saw them my self. I am saving the best and longest for a Cedar log cabin. Hope to get started on it this fall.
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SwampDonkey

Maybe you should ask the landowner who cut all his 18" diameter trees. ;D
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Cedarman

Ball park figure is 181' per ton. 
We used  to buy only 8' lengths when we sawed for cedar works.  But when we started advertising on the internet, we got calls for all kinds of stuff.  We have sold containters of 1" x 8' to 10' poles, some with the green sprig on top to trailer loads of round poles 2" and up.  Architechural cedar of huge size, didn't matter if internally unsound.  34' ridge beams, we use 100,000 feet of low grade cedar lumber in a product we make. 
We have to do this because we are at the northern fringe of the cedar belt to get enough cedar to process.
I am in the pink when sawing cedar.

ozarkgem

Quote from: Cedarman on April 20, 2014, 07:25:03 AM
Ball park figure is 181' per ton. 
We used  to buy only 8' lengths when we sawed for cedar works.  But when we started advertising on the internet, we got calls for all kinds of stuff.  We have sold containters of 1" x 8' to 10' poles, some with the green sprig on top to trailer loads of round poles 2" and up.  Architechural cedar of huge size, didn't matter if internally unsound.  34' ridge beams, we use 100,000 feet of low grade cedar lumber in a product we make. 
We have to do this because we are at the northern fringe of the cedar belt to get enough cedar to process.
are you laminating the 34' beams?
Mighty Mite Band Mill, Case Backhoe, 763 Bobcat, Ford 3400 w/FEL , 1962 Ford 4000, Int dump truck, Clark forklift, lots of trailers. Stihl 046 Magnum, 029 Stihl. complete machine shop to keep everything going.

Cedarman

No.  Two times we squared up and 8 1/4 x 8" and got 2 beams from one log.  We had some very nice big , long , straights cedar.  Have 3 or 4 logs that we can make some more when customer calls again.
I am in the pink when sawing cedar.

mesquite buckeye

Those cedars must have been close to 60' tall, no? 8)
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

Cedarman

There was about 100,000 feet came off that tract which was a clear cut to get dozed to make it into farmland.  Was some of the longest logs ever to come in here.  Some were 58' and 4" at small end, so there was another 10 or so feet above that.  Only one other time did I log some cedars  that gave 7  -  8' logs.
We always remember the really great ones.  Average cedar is where we make our money though because there are a lot of them.
I am in the pink when sawing cedar.

SwampDonkey

65 feet is about top height for our northern cedar, maybe a little taller in the more upland sites where it mixes with hardwood some. I see a lot of cedar wasted here for small pockets of 'pencil' rot. I guess they expect 200-300 cedar to be perfect after growing in less than ideal environments. The trouble is, there is no diversification at most facilities. So if the log doesn't fit the specs for a single product it's considered junk. Next facility makes something different, so they have logs they can't use. On top of that the wood is very under valued because the government is practically giving it away and they don't need to make use of everything.
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

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