ready for the house project

drobertson · October 14, 2014, 10:06:07 PM

Wow! way more elaborate then this construction for sure. this cabin is a stick built old fashion style, not timber framed at all. And No drawings like this to go by for certain. It would be nice some day to work on such a project. thanks for the insight, not much else to say,, kinda at a lose for words,,

blade69001 · October 15, 2014, 07:56:36 AM

IJohnsaw, Does that come with a finish drawing as well? I always loved the "A" frame homes up in the Seirra range.
Sean P.

Ljohnsaw · October 15, 2014, 10:51:13 AM

Quote from: blade69001 on October 15, 2014, 07:56:36 AM
IJohnsaw, Does that come with a finish drawing as well? I always loved the "A" frame homes up in the Seirra range.
Sean P.

You ask, you shall receive :D

I've got all the "drawings". I designed (with plenty of help from here) and drew in SketchUp. Not really an A frame - I'm not quite that high up (5,800') and only get 14' of snow. Go another 30 minutes up the road (1,200' more) and they get twice that!

drobertson · October 28, 2014, 12:22:24 PM

Making a little more progress as fall begin to set in. Plan is moving right along steady as she goes. Best part is Wes is very happy, and the boards are behaving quite well.

red oaks lumber · October 28, 2014, 05:31:43 PM

i don't think i'd be working on stairs, get that baby enclosed so the floor boards and framing dont get completly soaked with water

good looking project

drobertson · October 28, 2014, 06:34:42 PM

No doubt, they are trying! had to get the second decking on in order for the trusses to go up, this stuff has really held up,,

scsmith42 · October 29, 2014, 06:39:53 AM

It's looking great!

drobertson · December 07, 2014, 09:02:20 AM

This has been a slower going than everyone had intended, but building out of the back pocket coupled with work schedules and weather has its share of set backs, but things are moving along.

ely · December 09, 2014, 07:44:58 AM

I like tho project. Tell them I said great job.

drobertson · January 04, 2015, 06:27:21 PM

Well, this project is about to wear my buddy Wes out, he has been pretty much on his own for most of it, with help coming here and there from a few friends. Weather and work schedules can just be a killer, along with finances. There has been changes along the way, but why not if something is seen a person would like to add. After all it's his, so maybe in the next week or so the metal will go up. I'm pretty sure Wes is all for this! The dormer was added on the eastern side, he had a few rouge trusses that would've posed an issue with the metal roofing, so he took it out and added the widow, I kinda like the idea of a dormer,

reswire · January 04, 2015, 07:19:15 PM

Looks awesome, Do you have a basement?

drobertson · January 04, 2015, 07:28:56 PM

No basement on Wes's build, just a two foot stem wall, with pillars in the center, with beams for the supports. you might be able to see them in the side shot of the build.

WDH · January 04, 2015, 08:08:27 PM

He has got it looking great.

thecfarm · January 04, 2015, 09:44:52 PM

I like to see a house being built. Get all doors 3 feet wide. Much easier moving in the furniture.

Ljohnsaw · January 04, 2015, 11:45:08 PM

What is going to be holding the ridge up? I see a few 2x4s now, but will there eventually be a load bearing wall in place there? With out some collar ties on the rafters, it looks really scary right now!

drobertson · January 05, 2015, 07:51:18 AM

Yes there will be collar ties, as well as a 4' wall and the 12/12 side. To be honest, I've not seen a complete plan, so I am as anxious as anyone to see it through, right now we are needing more pine logs and the getting is getting harder, It seems that most loggers are into the oak at present due to the price oak is bringing.

Sawyer697 · January 05, 2015, 08:44:48 AM

Looking good, some ceiling joist in the upper level, would tie those walls together and stiffen it all up, with a few cross braces nailed in the upper ceiling. That will tie every thing into one strong built! :D

dablack · January 06, 2015, 08:48:33 AM

Yep! Right now it looks like a four bar linkage (great at falling down). He needs some triangles up there! That 12/12 section looks like it wants to push that upstairs wall, right off the house!

Austin

drobertson · January 06, 2015, 08:38:38 PM

Quote from: dablack on January 06, 2015, 08:48:33 AM
Yep! Right now it looks like a four bar linkage (great at falling down). He needs some triangles up there! That 12/12 section looks like it wants to push that upstairs wall, right off the house!

Austin

Post #82, last pic on that post shows the tie in of the truss,, I suppose it could shear,, but if that happens,, well there are worse conditions on the outside to deal with ;D these are locked in on the top plate with solid fits. The open feature of the upper loft will have supports, and as a side note, measurements have been taken, just inside 1/4" square on all checks,, so If the Lord will this to come down, then I suppose it will ;D

dablack · January 06, 2015, 10:11:53 PM

First off, I really like diy builds and I think your friends are doing a great job.

I saw how the rafters were tied to the top plates and that is a great fit. I'm not worried at all about the 12/12 pitch sliding off the floor or the 6/12 pitch sliding off the vertical wall.

I am worried about that verticle wall getting pushed out by those rafters. Roof rafters want to push walls out. By code, you need a rafter tie in the lower 1/3 of the rafters. This design can't comply with that requirement. To make it "better", I would put a pony wall under where the 12/12 pitch rafters are mated end to end. Somehow tie both rafters (upper and lower) to that pony wall with hurricane ties. Then I would put some rafter ties as low as possible. Really if it were mine, I would cut plywood triangles and put them on each side of the rafters at the peak. I don't always build to code either but I do try and meet the intent. I will be glad to draw up my suggestions if wanted. I will also be glad to just cheer them on. I know all about building with a limited cash budget.

drobertson · January 06, 2015, 11:19:42 PM

Well, the 12/12 pitch side will have a 4' inside wall making cubby hole storage shorting the span a bit. collar ties will be employed. And for another note, not sure of codes, but one that has built many by codes as well as much more complicated, who is a close friend with the sawyer and builder, is supervising the build in a humble manner. So, again, not much lack on confidence on the structures' integrity, but maybe quite a bit on the photos and commentary? ;D So in fashion with this forum, I thank all for comments and critics on it, I surly don't know building, but pretty confident on sawing, and have had thumbs up through and through with the boards presented for the build, and still am amazed at the lack of waste, which I attribute to the WMZ mill and maybe just a little experience at reading logs and reaction that comes from the logs. thanks, there really is no end to what we can learn when an open mind is employed.

dablack · January 07, 2015, 10:14:28 AM

With the 4' wall and collar ties, I'm sure it will be very stout. If I came across as rude, it was not my intent. I have seen houses without good bracing go down without much of a fight. When it comes to something as valuable as a building, I would hate it if something happened later and I had not said anything.

From what you have explained, it looks like everything is well in hand and my concerns were unfounded. With the collar ties and pony wall, I would let my kids play up there all day! I have enjoyed watching it go up, please continue to post pictures.

Austin