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Started by RobNH, April 21, 2015, 08:21:00 PM

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John Mc

For whatever reason, no one around here seems to use full or 3/4 wrap saws. Not sure why that is. It's not just a cost thing. From full-time pros to "occasional use" saw owners, just about everyone I've seen has the standard wrap.
If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.   - Abraham Maslow

4x4American

The 3/4 - full wrap handles started out on the west coast.  When I got my first 461 I had to talk to so many Stihl people to convince them to ship me one here.  I had to convince the regional manager at Stihl that people out east could benefit from them too.  After about a month and a half, they shipped me the Stihl 461r.  And then, after about another month, I noticed a sign at the counter of a different stihl dealership that said R models now available on the east coast.  They must have gotten enough complaints!


One guy I worked for in the woods, he bought 4 saws at a time.  Mainly 372 huskys. told me that if he ordered from somewhere in the west coast, they automatically came as XPW models.  He said he took a hacksaw and cut off the wrap part because he couldn't cut low enough! ???   


I have a 372 xpw, and I've measured it, you can cut a 4" low stump.  That's plenty low for me!
Boy, back in my day..

celliott

Quote from: John Mc on April 25, 2015, 08:09:42 AM
For whatever reason, no one around here seems to use full or 3/4 wrap saws. Not sure why that is. It's not just a cost thing. From full-time pros to "occasional use" saw owners, just about everyone I've seen has the standard wrap.

I know what you mean John. Occasionally you see one that an "enthusiast" owns.
I personally see no use for them. Bulky and add weight. If i was gonna drop extra money over a standard model saw, it'd be for heated handles.
A high output oiler wouldn't sell me either, as I don't use long bars. 20" on 70cc saws. Big felling dawgs, more for looks I think, we don't have thick barked softwoods. Plus they eat up bar length on my short bars  ;)
Just my opinion though  ;D   
Chris Elliott

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Logger003

I work for a Stihl dealer and the 311 or the 362 will not be a disappointment both good saws. The 291 is another good saw IMO. It really depends on what your going to be doing with the saw, that's my first question I ask my customers so I can point them in the right direction.

SawTroll

Quote from: celliott on April 25, 2015, 09:06:27 AM
Quote from: John Mc on April 25, 2015, 08:09:42 AM
For whatever reason, no one around here seems to use full or 3/4 wrap saws. Not sure why that is. It's not just a cost thing. From full-time pros to "occasional use" saw owners, just about everyone I've seen has the standard wrap.

I know what you mean John. Occasionally you see one that an "enthusiast" owns.
I personally see no use for them. Bulky and add weight. If i was gonna drop extra money over a standard model saw, it'd be for heated handles.
A high output oiler wouldn't sell me either, as I don't use long bars. 20" on 70cc saws. Big felling dawgs, more for looks I think, we don't have thick barked softwoods. Plus they eat up bar length on my short bars  ;)
Just my opinion though  ;D   

You got it right, far from everyone will benefit from the wrap hadles. :)
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346xp

 We have only sold 2 or 3 full wraps in 25 + years people just don't ask for them around here!!!

JohnG28

I originally thought that it was a nice addition as you can work around the tree a little easier, mainly on a hill or tough spot where cutting from one side was only way to go. I have since found it to just be more weight to carry and rarely use it. Looks cool, but not very practical IMO, least not in most cases.
Stihl MS361, 460 & 200T, Jonsered 490, Jonsereds 90, Husky 350 & 142, Homelite XL and Super XL

JohnG28

As for the Husky 372 xpw, it came with a 75cc p/c as opposed to the 70 cc regular 372 xp. That may have been the reason guys wanted the factory wrap, not so much for the handle.
Stihl MS361, 460 & 200T, Jonsered 490, Jonsereds 90, Husky 350 & 142, Homelite XL and Super XL

SawTroll

Quote from: JohnG28 on April 25, 2015, 06:55:04 PM
As for the Husky 372 xpw, it came with a 75cc p/c as opposed to the 70 cc regular 372 xp. That may have been the reason guys wanted the factory wrap, not so much for the handle.
That surely was the reason in many cases - but the 71cc top end comes with much better cylinder porting than the 75cc one.  ;)
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JohnG28

I can't say I know anything of the porting in either, never had either apart before. But sure they were sought after, although there had been a NOS 372 xpw at a local shop as recently as last year. Not sure if it's still there, don't use them much.
Stihl MS361, 460 & 200T, Jonsered 490, Jonsereds 90, Husky 350 & 142, Homelite XL and Super XL

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