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Started by gww, April 09, 2015, 05:02:13 PM

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gww

Ok Update
The tin roof.


 


The shed


 


The board and batton so far.  Be neat to leave the false front huh?


 


The long purlins for the tin roof, see I did look at your old post ox.  Been trying to think of that word purlin for three days.  It was on the tip of my toung.


 


And last but not least.  All the above add up to a crouded sawmill work space.


 


Enough play, now back to the grind.
Cheers
gww

Ox

Very nice update, gww.  Thanks for taking the time to type and post pics.  Things are looking good.  Hopefully you can get it done before the heat gets ya!

You might want to do a search on here for pineywoods $1.98 setter to put the set back in your blades for next to nothing.  If you're trying to pinch every penny, this is the way to do it.  I think he even made up a dual tooth setter for like $10 or something.  Between that and careful grinding you'll be able to squeeze more out of your existing blades until they break.

Your shed is looking fit for any yard around here, it's nice.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

gww

Ox
Thanks, I made it less then an hour and was soaking wet.  I am drying off and cooling down and then going out for a bit more.  I will look for pineys setter before I go, thanks for the suggestion.
gww

Ox

I just noticed you have an old Johnny Popper sitting there.  I love everything about them but the hand clutch, especially backing up or in the woods.

I had a 1952 A model with the semi-mounted sickle bar mower, John Deere also.  I forget which model.  Had to sell it to move this used double wide in here.  Tree hit our first house trailer.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

gww

Ox
The tracktor is atually owned by a guy that lives in the city.  He owns a six acre lake that corners my property.  I had it in the lean too where my wood is but some one bought the place behind me and the guy let him try to use it.  I had it started a couple years ago and when the other neibor died I brought it back to my house.  I parked it there because I thought I would start it and drive it to the leantoo but I just can't get into it.  I built the leantoo for the tractor till he let the other guy use it.  I could use it but really like my dads kabota much better. 
Cheers
gww

Ox

I knew you'd be a good neighbor!  ;)

It's good to know you've got it to use if needed.  You never know, might need a tow or pull someday.

My father's got a Kubota with loader, too.  They're nice machines.  Hard to beat a hydrostatic drive behind a loader with 4x4 too.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

gww

Ox
We had an old oliver 80 on the farm.  tricycle tires are scary and the speed those types can travil make it even scarier.  I have put up lots of hay behind the old johny poppers during my youth.  I drove that tractor around my field one time and decided I didn't like it much for such a small place as mine.  The three point on the old fords make them quite a bit handyer.  The kabota is a step up from that cause the hydrolics work with out the pto and 4x4 drive is great.  Dads has turf tires and that is not the greatest but the loader is handy when carrying logs that you don't want dirty. 

It is still hard work cutting and getting the logs and if I ever make the tops into fire wood it will be even harder.  It is also dangerous and the l3300 kabota has tiped pretty good just like the old nine N ford used to pop wheelies when pulling logs.  The bigger logs on pretty small hills have brought one or the other back tire off the groung if you turn the wheels wrong.  I always keep the bucket pretty close to the ground so if it gets to tipping really bad the log will hopfully hit the ground.  Interesting stuff.  I could be more cautious.  I got dads backhoe stuck on the bank of a claypit.  Broke a log chain getting it out.  I would not borrow me equiptment cause I am to rough on stuff but dad still offers all the time.  I hope I make up for my abuse in other ways.  I am hard on my own stuff too.  I have always mowed my yard at full blast no matter what I used.  I mow about 3 acres and it takes some times.  I now have a zero turn I bought used that does 12 mph and that is what I mow at.  I have so many ruts in my yard that it is like riding a quarter horse at a trot for ten hours but now only takes me about 1.5 hours to mow.

I noticed the conversations on the other thread about painting.  I am not painting anything that works unless that is the only way to keep it working.

I think I am going to like oak board and batton cause I believe if it is like the old barns and has a small overhang on the roof, it may fade but should survive with out paint.  The bee hives I made are not going to be painted either.  I used to own some rental houses and have spent lots of time painting and am not doing any more if it can be helped.

Funny how mentioning a tractor could bring all this out of me huh.  I must not have a life to spend this much time typing (which I do about as well as I spell).

Anyway, thanks for your interest.
gww

Ps  If a tree hit your other house I see why you built a sawmill, getting even right? :laugh:

Ox

I really, really enjoy reading your posts.  They usually make me chuckle somewhere in there.  It's just nice to see similar people halfway around the country, ya know.  It's comforting somehow.

Thanks for taking the time to do all the typing and posting pictures.  Someday I'll post pics of my stuff and place.  I do love to read your stories.   :)

There's many others enjoying as well, just quietly sitting off to the side and listening with a nice smile on their face.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

plowboyswr

Quote from: Ox on June 06, 2015, 11:59:44 PM
There's many others enjoying as well, just quietly sitting off to the side and listening with a nice smile on their face.

;D
Just an ole farm boy takin one day at a time.
Steve

gww

They are probly smiling cause they wonder how I survive.  They are probly quiet cause their mommas told them "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything.
Cheers
gww

Ox

That's not it at all.  I think it's joy in watching someone start from scratch and work and struggle to get where he's at and continually improve himself through determination.  This kind of spirit goes back to the early pioneers of this country.  It's a beautiful thing.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

gww

Ox
All I can say is that you have been continually supportive through out this whole experiance and I thank you for that.  Your comments to my questions have had common sence value and have helped me.  You supportive comments have helped in another way.
So, thanks
gww

plowboyswr

GWW, I have enjoyed this story from the start. I don't say a whole lot on here but read quite a bit, and have learned quite a bit, even from you. So don't be too hard on yourself. Take care, keep posting.
Just an ole farm boy takin one day at a time.
Steve

Ox

You're very welcome, my friend. 

It makes me glad and gives my life purpose if I can help people in some way, shape or form.

Around here it seems I'm surrounded by hillbillies (like myself) but they are wanna be yuppies.  My old fashioned ways of thinking and doing things are scoffed at a lot of the time.  Like reusing and repurposing things.  People do that "psht" noise and purse their lips because THEY would have bought new materials and had someone "professional" make whatever it is I just made.  I really hate that.  They'll be saying, "just do this and that" and I have to remind them it's pretty easy to spend somebody else's money!

Heck, once I dug a test hole in the side of my little slope to see what it would take to put in a root cellar for storing produce.  I was accused of digging a bomb shelter for the end of the world and was laughed at. 
My aunt put up a temporary shelter "to build a boat" and I was accused of building it for myself to build an ark for the end of the world.  This from a state trooper who still acts like he's in high school.  Yes, I went to school with him.  He hasn't changed much.  ::) 
Sorry for getting off on a tangent...feels good to vent a little to people who probably understand like nobody around here can or will.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

gww

plowboy
Unlike ox, you are from Mo and close to home.  I will have to look up on map quest to know exactly where.  Even in Mo I don't always know my way around.  I am in Rosebud Mo.  The town is only a couple hundred strong.  Thanks for the kind words.

Ox
Nobody enjoys being laughed at but I try not to let it stop me from doing what I want and sometimes I have to laugh at myself.  I have my ups and downs but figure that is life and sometimes I am ahead and sometimes I am behind.  In ten years it usually doesn't matter which way it is now.  I have one tennet and that is to try and cause no one harm (unless they are trying to harm me,  I am not a potato.) I might cause myself harm due to my actions but try very hard to not affect others.  Honestly I don't help many cause I can barily keep up with myself but I do try to not be a draw on other poeple.  I try to make my own way and as long as I am doing it and causeing no harm I could care less.  I do like affirmation just like everyone but it is not my primary motivation.

I understand about venting and personally enjoy yours, not cause of the pain involved but more because I have a better feeling that I am dealing with a real person and not just a shell.  Plus what is good for the goose is good for the gander, I do a bit of venting and reminising also as I am sure you noticed.
You are gold with me and I have been helped by knowing you at least in the way I can know you while interacting on a forum.  I am sure it would be even better in person.

I have enjoyed the project but am glad some of it is working out ok.  Nobody likes to just spin their wheels.  I mostly just bull through till it works out in some way.  I usually over estimate my ability and everything take three times as long as I thought but I am usually proud of my little projects anyway and I also know it was done with help from here and plenty from you personally.  I also am reading other post and can see you are a nice guy that tries to help others.


I also know you don't have quit as much me me me in you as I do and could tell you where truly impressed as I was with leggmans gift.

Anyway, I have found this fun.
Thanks
gww

Ox

 :).  I can't say anything better than a genuine smile can say regarding your last post.
I truly believe you and I would be good friends if we lived closer.
I believe most people on this forum would be good friends in real life if they lived closer.  I know many of them have met in person and made solid friendships.
I also understand that friends can be just on forums, and that's neat in itself.
Keep on keeping on, bud.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

gww

Ox
Thanks

Could some one explain or post a chart of what it means to cut 4/6 or 6/6 or 4/4.  I am lost all the time while trying to follow the post on this site cause I don't know what these terms mean.
Thank you
gww

Ox

4/4 means and is said, four quarters.  Means 4 quarters of an inch, which equals an inch.  4/4 is an inch thick board.
6/4 means and is said, six quarters.  Means 6 quarters of an inch, which equals an inch and a half.  6/4 is a 1 1/2" thick board.
There are sawmill scales that are either an inch rule, the quarter scale (beginning of this post) or both of these are on the same "ruler stick".  The quarter scale should have the kerf of the blade accounted for, so you just pick out what kind of boards you want from the cant, say 4/4 (1") boards, and keep dropping down to the mark on the 4/4 part of the scale.  You don't have to figure kerf in to your measurements as it's already figured out for you.
I'm not sure about the 6/6 or whatever.  Hopefully someone smarter than me will reply on that.  Never heard of a "sixth scale" but I'm also not a professional sawyer. 
Hmmm.  I'm not a professional anything, I guess.  Jack of all trades, master of none. ;D
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

gww

Ox
You are a master of explaining the above to me as I am no longer lost.  Can You believe I have been here this long and couldn't figure that out with out you.
Thanks for your help again.
gww

Ox

 smiley_thumbsup
Don't feel like the lone ranger!  I remember hearing "six quarter boards" for the first time and had no idea, only after it's explained does it make you painfully aware how simple it really is.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

gww

Ok
The shed is as done as I intend to make it.
Inside


 


outside


 


Lastly, a really unrelated bad chicken picture that you can't even see the baby that is sticking its head out.


 
I just put here cause I sorta get excited when a chicken starves herself and acts like a zombee and then is succesful.  I had miss counted and thought the eggs where going to hatch two days from now on my wifes birthday.  I guess I count like I use a mesuring tape, not that good. Threw you with the chicken picture though, didn't I.
Cheers
gww

Ox

That is a NICE looking shed.  I'd be proud if it were mine.  That sucker is built to last.  Well done, gww!

The last part of your post made me chuckle.   :D

I've had hens act like statues or zombies and others that are quite alert and protective.  I wonder why the difference?
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

mike_van

And make some guards too - It's hard to do all this stuff, even harder with only one hand or one arm.   
I was the smartest 16 year old I ever knew.

gww

Mike
I understand.  I may however keep using it with out gaurds.  I think I will gaurd the jack shaft though but the wheels, not so much.  If anyone ever starts working with me or I loan it out I will probly do the gaurds but working by myself, it is a non event when a blade breaks cause I am behind the mill and kill the motor when I am not.  I like seeing it working more then seeing it covered. 

The jack shaft however is another story and could be an accident waiting to happen cause it is in the work area.

Thanks for the suggestion.
gww

Ga Mtn Man

"zombie chicken"... now that one made me laugh out loud for real :D.  I've enjoyed following your journey, just can't offer much help as I went the easy route and bought a mill.  Not sure I'd want to do what you guys are doing.  My hat's off to you.
"If the women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy." - Red Green


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