Chattering band-Kasco

[goose63]

Hay Seth glade to hear you got it cutting good I'm going up to Hazen Friday will stop in to see ya bought noon 8)

[btulloh]

Glad you got if fixed.  Seeing the before pic, it was clear I was having the same problem as you.  Woodland Mills is sending me the updated washer as a free replacement.

I had replaced the urethane washer once already - about three months after I got this mill.  The original washer started "oozing" out around the bearing surface of the adjustment mechanism.  It looks like this will solve the problem once and for all.  Keep us updated if you have further developments or see signs of recurrence.
BT

[4x4American]

Personally I like deep gullets.  The shallow gullet blades cut too slow and I have worse results with them.  Run a wider, thicker blade if you're worried about beam strength.  IMO

[ladylake]

  My mill cuts faster and straighter with shallow gullets as I can push it harder while still cutting straight.  Steve

[4x4American]

I doubt it

[ladylake]

  After sawing over 2 million bf and trying out lots of different brands I find Simonds which have lower gullet dept. than most saw the straightest in tough wood like white oak, white ash and spruce' Sawing easy wood like white pine, red oak  or popular they all saw good.  Steve

[xlogger]

I doubt it

Well I don't know about you but Steve has cut 10 times more wood than me and he has given me some good advice over the years.

[4x4American]

Maybe if you put a deep gullet blade on it wouldn't take 11,000hrs to saw 2mmbf :D :D


edit 12,000hrs

[ladylake]

 
  As mentioned I've tried deep gullet blades and don't saw as straight as shallow gullet blades. Why do you think that deep gullet blades saw faster but not as straight.   Steve

[Deere80]

Goose I might take vacation Friday so I might be home, it depends on what the weather is going to be out. 

[4x4American]

Because deep gullet blades have more gullet capacity.  With the shallow gullet blades, you can't push them as fast without getting waves because the blade will spill sawdust and get the blade all cattywampus.  If you haven't you should try WM turbo 1-1/2 .055" thick blades (on 1-1/2" guide rollers).  To me it's night and day difference (in hardwood) compared to say a ripper 37 or a kasco 7 or reg wm 7, etc.  If your mill is properly aligned and the blade body is flat you should have excellent results.  Also have to get a wm blade with a good weld joint.  Alot of times they are less than perfect

[ladylake]

 

  Explain why me or you can saw easy to saw wood at high feed rates and then saw tough wood at much lower feed rates which puts out way less sawdust and then blame it on the gullets being too full of sawdust, the gullet too full theory makes no sense at all, my really shallow gullet 3/4 pitch Simonds  saw hard too cut and easy too cut wood the straightest  by far  at high feed rates . As mentioned more beam and less tooth puts less twisting force on the blade. I'm not switching to a high priced 1 1/2 blade that break too soon when I can make my diesel smoke and still cut straight with my Simonds 1 1/4 blade.  The thicker blades would just cut slower as the kerf is wider.  If I had a 45 hp diesel I might give them a try.  A 3/4 pitch Simonds blade cuts wide spruce better than any deep gullet blade.  Steve

[Ox]

ladylake - what tooth angle do you prefer on your Simmonds 3/4 pitch blades?  I have a lot of trouble with standing dead red pine and wavy cuts and after trying many things your experience with these blades may have me wanting to try them.  Where do you order them from?

[ladylake]

 
I buy them at 10° as that's all they sell then sharpen to 4° , the 10° cut good but the 4° are a little better.  With dead pine make sure your blades aren't gumming up.   Will send you a PM.  Steve

[Ox]

Yep, no gumming here I can promise you that!  I've tried every trick in the book except for different tooth spacing.  It's the only thing I haven't tried and it's why I'm a little interested in it.  I've heard spruce is tough to cut straight and if you can, then I can!

[goose63]

Ibought two of the Ripper 37s with the shallow gulet and dont like them. New on my woodland thy push just as hard as a dull deep gullet. I have one left will use it on a dirty log then toss it out

[Nomad]

     Different sawyers have different mills, use different bands and cut different woods under different conditions.  Results may very dramatically between one and the next. 
     Why question another seasoned professional about what works for him?  That really is not in the tradition of this Forum.  If it doesn't work for you, don't do it that way!

[ladylake]

Yep, no gumming here I can promise you that!  I've tried every trick in the book except for different tooth spacing.  It's the only thing I haven't tried and it's why I'm a little interested in it.  I've heard spruce is tough to cut straight and if you can, then I can!

A little extra set also helps in dry pine but you've most likely tried that.  In spruce their is night and day difference between 7/8 pitch and a shallow gullet 3/4 pitch blade.  The 3/4 pitch saws really good up to 14" wide or so and just a bit of up and down in real wide cuts, the 7/8 in wide cuts is terrible.  Steve

[Ox]

     Different sawyers have different mills, use different bands and cut different woods under different conditions.  Results may very dramatically between one and the next. 
     Why question another seasoned professional about what works for him?  That really is not in the tradition of this Forum.  If it doesn't work for you, don't do it that way!

Why question another sawyer?  For different or better ideas.  And I think you're wrong - This is what the forum is based upon.  People asking others what has worked for them and for different ideas.  What are you trying to say?  You're not making much sense.  Meant with respect.

[barbender]

Why question might better have read "why insult?". Dug kinda came across that way, whether intentional or not.

[4x4American]

Why question might better have read "why insult?". Dug kinda came across that way, whether intentional or not.

I'm a ball buster smart aleck by nature, if you were to have met me in person it might make more sense...the internet and typing doesnt really relay stuff well.  I don't saw much softwood mainly low grade hardwood and its fast sawing no rose smelling so were in different worlds.  Anyways, shallow gullets do not work for me, thick wide and deep is how I like em :D

[barbender]

I figured that was the case, I'm a big time smart aleck needler myself and I have to be careful the way I come across online😊 I was more trying to clarify what was being talked about than anything. I've said it many times before, I'll say it again- I "dig" Dug's sense of humor ;D

[Magicman]

Successful sawyers have their own tried and proven methods as well as niche markets.   They may be different than what other sawyers are accustomed to but different is not necessarily wrong.  It does not bode well to unnecessarily "call them out" just because you disagree with or do not fully understand their methods. 

Until I have walked in their sawdust I find it best to open my eyes and ears and learn.

[Deese]

You guys are just jealous that you cannot compete with the 13hp EZ Jr baby!! :D :D :D :D :D

Y'all remember when MagicMan, Barbender, 4x4, and I had that sawing competition last year and I smoked'em? 

Yeah, me neither  :D :D :D :D :D

[barbender]

Probably could've smoked me, Deese! I have the lowest production rate of any hydraulic mill in the midwest, maybe the whole country ;D