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Started by Jeff, March 23, 2017, 07:54:35 AM

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sandsawmill14

jeff we had a 47  2 ton but i dont know if there is still  rim here or not  ??? what size are they ???  19.5 x ? 10,00 x 20s ???
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grouch

What's the bolt circle?
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Aint that the tire size on Farmalls and haywagons?
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Quote from: grouch on May 21, 2017, 10:01:58 AM
What's the bolt circle?
7.25 center to center on opposing bolts, center hole is 5.5 inches in diameter
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sandsawmill14

sorry jeff i dont have anything that small i know :( :-\ 
unless you are dead set on getting the bead locks to keep it original i pretty sure you can order new rims that will work  :) last i checked they were under a $100 each but that was for a chevy ;) if you go that route you can put the new rims on the inside and very few people would notice it wasnt stock :)
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When I got the truck, it came with a bunch of extra parts, including two plastic totes of stuff. When I first got them, I looked through them, but really didn't understand much of what was there. Today I went back through the stuff and had a couple cool finds. One was a hood prop, and the other, two arm rests. I'd seen the arm rests on eBay, in perhaps worse shape than mine for over 100 bucks. I was most geeked about the hood prop. :)


 

Here it is In place.

  

  I also found $100 in one tote in a paper bag. The value of the brake shoes as cores that I didn't know I had. Core is 25 a shoe.

Also front wheels and tires are ready to go on once I'm ready for them.


 
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sandsawmill14

looks like you had a pretty good day smiley_thumbsup
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Jeff

Turns out it was a REALLY REALLY good thing I found those shoes in that tote.  I compared them to the new ones I had, and they were slightly different, so I called down to DCM Classics where I got the shoes, and described the difference. They told me I had a pre-war axle on a post-war truck, which depending on when the truck was actually made, happened. Meaning the shoes they sent me were not going to work, and the shoes that I found were like gold  because without them, no brakes. I'm sending them all back, and in exchange I'll get my $100 core charge back plus they will re-line my shoes and send them to me.
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Quote from: Jeff on May 22, 2017, 08:50:32 AM
I'm sending them all back, and in exchange I'll get my $100 core charge back plus they will re-line my shoes and send them to me.
Cool!  That may cover most of the relining fee...
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No additional re-lining fee. I'm returning the new brakes they sent me, and the relining is the same cost as what the purchase price was of the other shoes. :)
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loggah

Jeff, I'll check in the junkyard tomorrow,theres a ww2 power wagon out back in the pit there is a newer 40's dodge there but it has 7:50-20's on it. Don
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The power wagon wheels should be right . I was thinking the yard down the road from me might have a power wagon to .
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If you guys could keep your eyes open for a split windshield frame from anything from 39-47 dodge or plymouth that would be great too.  :)
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I got a little over-anxious when removing the windshield of my '49 Olds. Busted. That was ok, though, because I wanted a '50 one-piece windshield. :) Found new one online from Bob's Vintage glass or something like that.


No luck so far with the wheels. Ran across discussions where they are claimed to be rare.
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My friend Harold dropped by tonight with a surprise. He works for a company that builds concert stages. He heard I was working on an old truck, so he thought I might be needing some steel. He can buy the new scrap right now for .25 a lb. He brought me 100 lbs tonight. I told him I'll take more. He says he never knows what there will be, but he's going to keep his eyes open for me. This stuff will be perfect for building something. Don't know what yet.  Here is a pic with the stock lying across the frame.


 
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 That's hard to get around here. Most scrapyards won't let you buy anymore.
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This company has a scrap dumpster that goes to the local salvage place. The employees can buy the scrap from the dumpster for the same price as the salvage yard pays them for it. I' pretty stoked about finding I have this source.

I'll be cutting off those old scabbed on hunks of channel now.
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bigred1951

Im not sure but look into ups trucks and them kind of box trucks. If I'm thinking right some of them had the big 6 lug wheel bolt pattern And im sure they are one one piece.

loggah

I checked the rims on the old power wagon ,all tires were flat,and real rusty where the lock ring seats,i wouldn't trust them. I will keep my eyes open. Don
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sandsawmill14

jeff before you buy rims make sure they are the right OFFSET for duals  :o the bolt pattern will work but they will let the tires pull together before the rims tighten up  ;) i think the ones you have are the right offset from the pic but i cant be sure from the pics ???    you may have already thought of this but thought i would mention it just in case :)
also i THINK some of the old ford IH and studabaker trucks (1955 back) used that bolt pattern not sure but maybe a few years after '55 but pretty sure '55 on back would work :)

and if it is a b series it may have came with single rear wheels from the factory and all 4 wheels will be the same offset  :)
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paul case

Since you have 4 that will dual you could go with just white spoked or ???? for the front. I once had a pickup that had been converted to rear duals that had regular rims on the front and dually hubcaps. IT looked ok.

I have enjoyed seeing your progress on this project truck. I was wondering if the truck had a name? We had several that had names when I was growing up, Nellybelle, 2 ton tony, old blue, and Trusty are the ones I can remember.

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sandsawmill14

jeff you can lay a level across the center of the rim and see how much clearance you will have to be sure they are offset enough :)
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Jeff

I have one front rim with a different offset and the lug holes are not "innies and outies" as I call them for the duels to mesh. I guess if I had my druthers, I wish I could find some real wide modrn rims that would fit the back and put some wide tires on it. Being a child of the 70's, I still like that fat back tire look. :D   I wonder how hard it would be to get custom cemnters welded in newer tubeless rims?

This morning I pulled off the PTO and put a cover plate on it as I have no plans on using it. I've also found my motor mounts are rotten, so I'm going to replace those. Parts like that are surprisingly affordable.  The one front mount is 22 and the two back mounts are 15.
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grouch

According to THIS, "The old Dodge power wagons, the m715's and 53 to 66 ford f350's all use a 6x7.25 lug pattern to so they are in the same boat."

So, off to car-part.com and there are a surprising number of wheels -- fronts and dual rear -- available for those old Ford F350s. (Kept checking until I found one that specified lugs, bolt circle and center hole). Still splits, though.

Those could be your center donors.
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