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Started by Peter Drouin, May 01, 2012, 08:49:55 AM

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Peter Drouin

Good job cutting lumber longer than the mill. Not everyone can do that.
You are a master sawyer. smiley_beertoast
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Bandmill Bandit

Thank you Peter. I have to say thankyou to the people that have posted how too tips on here as well. Its fiddly work. Took 3 hours to get them both down to size. I took a pic of the log when I got it on the mill but accidentally deleted it and a couple of others when I went to up load.   
Skilled Master Sawyer. "Skilled labour don't come cheap. Cheap labour dont come skilled!
2018 F150 FX4, Husqvarna 340, 2 Logright 36 inch cant hooks and a bunch of stuff I built myself

Peter Drouin

Load two.


 


 
Got to sharpen more blades. ;D
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

78NHTFY

Nice Peter!  A repeat, high-paying customer--that's what running a good business is all about.  All the best, Rob.
If you have time, you win....

Peter Drouin

I will be using all my old blades. Then will send in new ones. :D :D
When they loaded the truck they mix the beams up. I had to take one at a time off. I don't think they had an idea how to load a truck.
You would think they would keep all the lengths together.  ::)
Today I have to finish 3 live edge orders. Have a boat place picking up a bunch of 3"x10"x16' hemlock for cribbing.
Now if the help shows up!!! :D 
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Bandmill Bandit

Just finished another great job for a repeat customer and friend.



 

 

 

 

 
This job was for the Friend that taught me to saw with my Wood mizer. He ran the saw about half the 3.5 days of the job.  We got just under 16000BF and used 3 7*Turbo blades and that was only because of hard ware in the first dozen yard logs.

2nd and 3rd blades did about 7000+BF each. Volume per hour is about 30% better per hour with the carbide blades.


 
Skilled Master Sawyer. "Skilled labour don't come cheap. Cheap labour dont come skilled!
2018 F150 FX4, Husqvarna 340, 2 Logright 36 inch cant hooks and a bunch of stuff I built myself

Southside

How much of that job was timbers vs lumber? Just trying to get a feeling for the production you are making there. 
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Lawg Dawg

Quote from: Bandmill Bandit on August 28, 2018, 12:22:13 PM
2nd and 3rd blades did about 7000+BF each. Volume per hour is about 30% better per hour with the carbide blades.


 
Wow  :o  That's some WOOD CUTTING BLADES! 
2018  LT 40 Wide 999cc, 2019 t595 Bobcat track loader,
John Deere 4000, 2016 F150, Husky 268, 394xp, Shindiawa 591, 2 Railroad jacks, and a comealong. Woodmaster Planer, and a Skilsaw, bunch of Phillips head screwdrivers, and a pair of pliers!

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Lawg Dawg

I'm just thinking outloud...I saw 50,000 board feet per year(one man show, including cutting the trees down).  If I run carbide tip blades and say I get 5000 bf per blade conservatively...I would only need 10 blades per year.  Does WM resharp still charge $7 to sharpen a carbide band?  :P
2018  LT 40 Wide 999cc, 2019 t595 Bobcat track loader,
John Deere 4000, 2016 F150, Husky 268, 394xp, Shindiawa 591, 2 Railroad jacks, and a comealong. Woodmaster Planer, and a Skilsaw, bunch of Phillips head screwdrivers, and a pair of pliers!

100,000 bf club member
Pro Sawyer Network

Bandmill Bandit

For this job about a 1/3rd was 4x6, 6x6 and 3x10. the rest was dimensional framing lumber in 2x4, 2x6 and some 2x8 all spruce. NO rough dimensions. about 25% 12' and the rest 16'.

Leo is 82 and had a 17 year old grandson tailing the mill for him. On Friday they cut 3800 BF, NOT including the aprox half cord of 1" windslabs. Leo said that is the first time in his entire experience (about 25 years and 3 mills) of sawing with a Woodmizer that he has been able to saw a whole day with the same blade he put on in the morning when he started the mill. He started the mill at 830AM and shut it off at 6PM for the day including 2 x 1/2 hour breaks. Id say that Is some good work for a man his age. I only improve that by about 20% ish.

You can see in the pictures that everything is setup to maximize productivity and minimize manual handling as far as possible right down to lumber straight onto a trailer off the end of the mill and waste into the fire wood rack to the operator side at a slight angle to the out feed table to be bucked and thrown on the stack a few feet away. 2 other grand kids, one 16 and the other 14, doing the firewood processing and they kept up real well.

Lawg Dawg;
I haven't sharpened any of the carbide bands yet BUT I am expecting 3 cycles minimum (based on the Woodmizer reps numbers) per band that should give a minimum of 15000 BF per blade. (possibly as much as 25000 BF per blade) That is about 250% better than current double hard and Bimetal gross production on an estimated 1/3 of the sharpening/setting time requirements.

I like the Numbers a LOT. I like the lumber that come off the mill even BETTER!
I am estimating a blade cost reduction of 50% all thing considered. The ONLY thing that would skew that number is "jewelry" in the logs.

My daughter has dubed it jewelry and is working with a friend of hers to actually turn the contents of collection bucket into "bling" to sell at the farmers market. We will see how that goes. Pictures will show up here when there are some!

FYI The saw dust coming out the exit chute flies about 25 to 30% further out from the mill when using the carbide blades with the deflector raised out of the way and there is a LOT less saw dust left in the cut.            
Skilled Master Sawyer. "Skilled labour don't come cheap. Cheap labour dont come skilled!
2018 F150 FX4, Husqvarna 340, 2 Logright 36 inch cant hooks and a bunch of stuff I built myself

Peter Drouin

What you have is a good setup. All the newbs should look at that setup and do the same thing. Setup on flat ground, logs on dunnage, Lumber going straight. No spinning the lumber around.
A very professional job.  smiley_thumbsup
Good job Bandit.
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Bandmill Bandit

Thank you Peter.
I humbly accept your accolades and I hope that others will benefit from my experience. 

I have to check my note book BUT I believe that the 2 jobs posted above that I just completed add up to 22000 BF on 5 Carbide blades in 5 x 10 hr (aprox) days of sawing.
Skilled Master Sawyer. "Skilled labour don't come cheap. Cheap labour dont come skilled!
2018 F150 FX4, Husqvarna 340, 2 Logright 36 inch cant hooks and a bunch of stuff I built myself

Peter Drouin

I'm going have to look at the carbide blades, Maybe get some boxes of them.
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Southside

Thanks Bandmill, that is quite impressive for sure 
Franklin buncher and skidder
JD Processor
Woodmizer LT Super 70 and LT35 sawmill, KD250 kiln, BMS 250 sharpener and setter
Riehl Edger
Woodmaster 725 and 4000 planner and moulder
Enough cows to ensure there is no spare time.
White Oak Meadows

Peter Drouin

I got to get bigger lights on the Cat, Can't see the end of forks in the dark.


 


 
I'm getting a lot of orders for long stuff. Now I'm getting a pile of overrun 24'+
Think I need another shed with a 30' door. ::)


 
It never ends. :D :D
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Peter Drouin

Another load of flooring to Boston.


 


 
That old long leaf Pine will pitch up a blade if you let it.  :D :D



5700 bf.  
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Lawg Dawg

Need a little diesel in a squirt bottle for that pitch!  :o  Did you saw 5700 with those 3 blades? :P  I live in the land of long leaf, grows good in these sandhills
2018  LT 40 Wide 999cc, 2019 t595 Bobcat track loader,
John Deere 4000, 2016 F150, Husky 268, 394xp, Shindiawa 591, 2 Railroad jacks, and a comealong. Woodmaster Planer, and a Skilsaw, bunch of Phillips head screwdrivers, and a pair of pliers!

100,000 bf club member
Pro Sawyer Network

Bruno of NH

Great work as you always do👍
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

thecfarm

You NH guys are moving some wood.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Magicman

Peter, now you see why that we can not saw dry.  Gotta have the Lubemizer running.
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

Peter Drouin

With the buildup on the blade, I will get that on older logs of W Pine. I just thought the old beams would do the same thing. Are you telling me a green longleaf pine log will do the same thing?

That truckload used 10 blades, Lawg Dawg.
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

WDH

Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

Magicman

Absolutely, that or worse.  I won't/can't tolerate any buildup so the Lubemizer often runs continuously while sawing.  If I see that it is building up I run the Lubemizer continuously until it clears before entering the log.  Not just Longleaf but often a Shortleaf or Loblolly will be sappy.

I have never seen the need to use Diesel.
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

YellowHammer

What these guys said smiley_thumbsup

When my Lubemizer isn't Lubemizing good, that's what all my bands would look like.  Then my band heats up and starts doing the Conga in the log.  

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Take steps to save steps.

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Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

PAmizerman

I'm going to be getting into doing my own sharpening soon. Do you clean a you're blades before you sharpen? How do you clean them?
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