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EOTE

Quote from: ljohnsaw on January 19, 2020, 07:32:10 PMDon't look too close at the picture to see where the hinge was set...


I will admit my face cut was a bit shallow but my hinge was a little over 2" thick.  The tree was actually backweighted slightly which at 110' in height made tipping it a bit of a challenge using just wedges.  The tree did drop exactly where I aimed.

My normal practice is to make my face cut, then a plunge cut behind the hinge, working toward the back of the cut.  This tree was larger than my blade so I had to make a plunge cut from both sides.  I usually set a wedge behind the hinge and then cut the back strap.  If the tree doesn't fall after cutting the back strap, I put in a wedge at the back.  I normally use an ax to drive in the wedges.  However, on this backweighted tree I had to use my 6 lb. splitting mall and several wedges.  I would say 95% of my trees drop within 6" to a foot of where I aim them.  What I call an "oh shoot" tree is one that drops 1 to 3 feet away from my aiming point.  So far, I have not had a tree drop outside of that range in all my felling (just lucky I guess).
EOTE (End of the Earth - i.e. last place on the road in the middle of nowhere)  Retired.  Old guys rule!
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DPatton

EOTE,

That is some nice looking lumber from that log. I like your pallet and stacking too. Like WV I was also intrigued by the number of wedges on your stump.  ???
TimberKing 1600, 30' gooseneck trailer, Chevy HD2500, Echo Chainsaw, 60" Logrite.

Work isn't so bad when you enjoy what your doing.
D & S Sawmill Services

EOTE

Quote from: DPatton on January 19, 2020, 07:46:02 PMThat is some nice looking lumber from that log. I like your pallet and stacking too.


All my lumber is currently air dryed.  I came up with the pallets early on because of the amount of lumber I needed to dry (ultimately about 50K bd. ft.) and the limited space I have in my drying house...  I can stack pallet on pallet with this setup to about 10 feet in height.  My drying house is 20' x 40'.



 
EOTE (End of the Earth - i.e. last place on the road in the middle of nowhere)  Retired.  Old guys rule!
Buzz Lightsaw, 12 Mexicans, and lots of Guy Toys

Ljohnsaw

Quote from: EOTE on January 19, 2020, 07:45:26 PMQuote from: ljohnsaw on Today at 04:32:10 PM Don't look too close at the picture to see where the hinge was set... /endquote 

I will admit my face cut was a bit shallow but my hinge was a little over 2" thick. The tree was actually backweighted slightly which at 110' in height made tipping it a bit of a challenge using just wedges. The tree did drop exactly where I aimed.

I didn't mean any disrespect.  And I'm far from an expert.  And I wasn't there to assess the situation.  But, when the hinge is that shallow, it takes a lot more to lift the tree to get it to tip, in my limited experience.  In a situation like you describe, I tend to cut much further (30-40%) in to move the hinge closer to the tree's center of gravity.  If it has too much back lean, I go with how it wants to go.  If that is not an option, then I cheat and use my SkyTrak to persuade it. :-\
John Sawicky

Just North-East of Sacramento...

SkyTrak 9038
Ford 545D FEL
Genie S45
Davis Little Monster backhoe
Case 16+4 Trencher
Home Built 42" capacity/36" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

EOTE

Quote from: ljohnsaw on January 20, 2020, 12:15:47 AMI didn't mean any disrespect.  And I'm far from an expert.  And I wasn't there to assess the situation.  But, when the hinge is that shallow, it takes a lot more to lift the tree to get it to tip, in my limited experience.  In a situation like you describe, I tend to cut much further (30-40%) in to move the hinge closer to the tree's center of gravity.


ljohnsaw, none taken...we all have developed methodologies that work for us.  I usually use a deeper cut as well and I switched my drop zone at the last minute because it was much easier to clear and clean up.  Quite honestly, these two trees were the tallest and largest diameter pines I have taken in my experience.  The second tree which I didn't photograph, fell with my initial 2 wedges after I cut the back strap.  We can always learn something from other people's perspectives and improve our end game.  Thanks.
EOTE (End of the Earth - i.e. last place on the road in the middle of nowhere)  Retired.  Old guys rule!
Buzz Lightsaw, 12 Mexicans, and lots of Guy Toys

Curlybirtch

January thaw last week had me itching to saw a little. Walked past this turd 100's of times in the woods, gave it a good kick the other day and it seemed solid, curiosity got the best of me. She was ugly and very very heavy. Was hoping it was an old walnut but now im not sure what it is. Solid through and through.  Thinking maybe oak, but the colors got me scratching my head. Any ideas?

 

 

 

Nebraska

To me it looks like a pretty table top... species be darned..

JRWoodchuck

Looks like walnut to me! Real pretty!
Home built bandsaw mill still trying find the owners manual!

Jim_Rogers

I was trying to saw out another 8x8x12 white pine timber.

But the throttle spring decided it had enough:



 

Lucky for me I had several spares in the parts box.

Not fun to do bare handed when it's 20° F out and almost dark.
The engine was still warm which did help some.

Jim Rogers
Whatever you do, have fun doing it!
Woodmizer 1994 LT30HDG24 with 6' Bed Extension

Old Greenhorn

Well at least it wasn't cold out.  :D :D ;D :D ;D
 You know what your weather COULD be right now. It's tough when it's that cool and your dexterity is waning. At least you didn't have to do a valve job.
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way.  NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

Magicman

My very first portable sawing job since my knee replacement surgery.  This was for a many times repeat customer, and this time Cypress.


 
I counted ~15 logs that had been bucked and two unbucked tree length logs.


 
The first trailer load of mostly twelve foot 1X12's.


 
The second trailer load which also included twelve 2X4's.  I failed to get a picture of the third trailer load.


 
Some of the stickered lumber.  I should finish this job tomorrow with a ~30" White Oak.  I have not tallied any of the lumber yet but it was a good day.  I dulled two blades.

The sawing felt good and I got no complaints from the new knee.  ;D
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

caveman

I am glad your knee did not give you any trouble.  Good looking cypress.  That is probably my favorite wood to saw.  If it would only go through the dust chute without clogging it would be perfect.
Caveman

Magicman

Yes, I had my chute to totally clog up today with the clingy sawdust and stringy bark.
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

WV Sawmiller

   Congrats on getting back into the groove and the new knee holding up so well.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

samandothers

Congratulations Lynn!  Glad you are back in the saddle, back in the seat rather, again!

DPatton

Quote from: EOTE on January 19, 2020, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: DPatton on January 19, 2020, 07:46:02 PMThat is some nice looking lumber from that log. I like your pallet and stacking too.


All my lumber is currently air dryed.  I came up with the pallets early on because of the amount of lumber I needed to dry (ultimately about 50K bd. ft.) and the limited space I have in my drying house...  I can stack pallet on pallet with this setup to about 10 feet in height.  My drying house is 20' x 40'.



 
That's a nice air drying shed full of lumber EOTE. Wish I had built mine bigger. Did you do your cut and fit your own timber framing? You have good protection from the sun and weather along with open sides for air movement.
TimberKing 1600, 30' gooseneck trailer, Chevy HD2500, Echo Chainsaw, 60" Logrite.

Work isn't so bad when you enjoy what your doing.
D & S Sawmill Services

DPatton

MM,
That's a heck of a stack of lumber for only 2 blades. I just don't know how you do it. I've sawn 6 hours before on 2 blades but the logs were barkless and prestine for cleanliness. They also were not frozen. My last custom job I went thru 9 blades in 12 hours of sawing. Most of the sawing was in frozen red oak. Half with bark on, half with out bark and clean. Didn't matter wether using Kasco 4°s or Woodmizer Turbo 7°s they just wouldn't last.
TimberKing 1600, 30' gooseneck trailer, Chevy HD2500, Echo Chainsaw, 60" Logrite.

Work isn't so bad when you enjoy what your doing.
D & S Sawmill Services

jeepcj779

I'm willing to bet MM's were not frozen!

EOTE

Quote from: DPatton on January 20, 2020, 10:51:13 PMThat's a nice air drying shed full of lumber EOTE. Wish I had built mine bigger. Did you do your cut and fit your own timber framing? You have good protection from the sun and weather along with open sides for air movement.


DPatton, my drying house and sawmill house were designed to be a "quick build" using 8" x 8" timbers for the post and beams.  No fancy millwork, I just used structural screws to hold it together and plywood gusset plates.  The beams are simple half lap.  The trusses are simple "A" trusses with a 2" x 6" ridge beam and shiplap roof with standard R-9 metal panels over the top.  I also built the concrete embeds for the columns.



 





I honestly couldn't get all the lumber in the drying house at one time so as the lumber dried, I pulled it out and sized, graded, palletized and banded it for more compact storage. 



 

The pallets are sized for what my tractor can lift (~2K).


 
EOTE (End of the Earth - i.e. last place on the road in the middle of nowhere)  Retired.  Old guys rule!
Buzz Lightsaw, 12 Mexicans, and lots of Guy Toys

Bruno of NH

Mr Lynn,
I'm glad your back making saw dust again 8)
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

Magicman

Doug, Cypress is probably the easiest on blades of any species that I saw.  The customer was skidding the logs to the sawmill so there was some dirt that I had to clean off, saw through, or dodge. 

I only sawed 6 hours, so the blade life was nothing spectacular but it was a nice productivity rate.  ;D
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

Old Greenhorn

Quote from: Magicman on January 20, 2020, 09:13:15 PM
My very first portable sawing job since my knee replacement surgery.  .........

.........The sawing felt good and I got no complaints from the new knee.  ;D
See, that didn't take very long, did it? Good on ya MM!
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way.  NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

EOTE

Quote from: Magicman on January 21, 2020, 07:17:23 AM
Doug, Cypress is probably the easiest on blades of any species that I saw.  The customer was skidding the logs to the sawmill so there was some dirt that I had to clean off, saw through, or dodge.  

I only sawed 6 hours, so the blade life was nothing spectacular but it was a nice productivity rate.  ;D
Magicman, what blades do you use on your WM ?
EOTE (End of the Earth - i.e. last place on the road in the middle of nowhere)  Retired.  Old guys rule!
Buzz Lightsaw, 12 Mexicans, and lots of Guy Toys

Bruno of NH

No sawing for me today
-13° this morning
Tomorrow it's going to warm up and the rest of the week
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

EOTE

Quote from: Bruno of NH on January 21, 2020, 10:22:52 AM
No sawing for me today
-13° this morning
Tomorrow it's going to warm up and the rest of the week
And I am complaining when the day time temperatures are in the 40's. :D ;D
Having grown up in Montana, I do know what cold is...I've just come to hate it. 
That's why I live in Texas.  :)
EOTE (End of the Earth - i.e. last place on the road in the middle of nowhere)  Retired.  Old guys rule!
Buzz Lightsaw, 12 Mexicans, and lots of Guy Toys

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