couple pics... post what your currently cutting

[nativewolf]

@Corley5 You were not kidding about the maple.  It seems like fairly small sawlog stuff but still, very nice and straight.  Should last you a few hours on the processor.  When the wood is that nice doesn't it just fly through?  Just curious how much faster that will process vs the same volume of pulpwood.  Maybe for kicks keep a good record.

[Corley5]

  Wood like this will knock up to an hour off the time it takes to run a five face cord load.  A load from our average hard wood pulp will take me about 2.5 hours working alone.  Two hours with my son operating the Bobcat and it'll cord out better too.  2.5 16" face cords per 100" cord of pulp is average.  This stuff won't make 3 face cord but it'll be way closer than 2.5.  I've ran saw bolts before.  On occasion I get some that have stained in a mill yard.  
 Mills will slick what grade they can from the outside of the bolts and then flooring and pallet material from the rest.

[Maine logger88]

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 There was a question the other day on another thread on why biomass was important in the north east. This is a prime example of why this lot has been high graded a few times over the years and to do proper tsi we need a market to get rid of this junk to let good wood grow. And yes a guy could just drop this stuff and leave it but not many landowners are going to pay to have that done. And with no real good timber left to make it worth my time to do the extra work for free I'm not interested in doing it. Plus it would take many years to rot down and be walkable. There is thousands of tons of this crap on this job. I slash out what pulp and firewood I can and the rest will be chipped

[BargeMonkey]

The view up here is wicked, walk 100yds from the timbco, leafs wherent on you could see VT one way, PA the other. 
 

 
 I love these guys who tell me you can't cut production with a barsaw 🤣 that's 30" on the stump, I had 100 nice ones down and set out by noon walking some nasty ground. 
 

 
 

 
 Am I the only one who looks at buying something and figures in your head on cordage or footage ? Every stick of firewood I can get, I've got 3x sets of chains and a 640D to buy in a bag of money on the side of the road 🤣 
 


 
 

 
 Stopped tonight, bull walks over wondering exactly what I want ? 🤣 they grow 1" of horn a day right now. 

[Old Greenhorn]

Wait what?! You have moose up there?
 Geez, I gotta just come up some day and hang out on the woodlot watching you work. I love hard work, I could watch it for hours. ;D

[BargeMonkey]

Wait what?! You have moose up there?
Geez, I gotta just come up some day and hang out on the woodlot watching you work. I love hard work, I could watch it for hours. ;D

Give me a call, I've got some wood for your mill on a job, get you squared away. Yeah elk out back, we make hay for "tax purposes". 

[Skeans1]

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 There was a question the other day on another thread on why biomass was important in the north east. This is a prime example of why this lot has been high graded a few times over the years and to do proper tsi we need a market to get rid of this junk to let good wood grow. And yes a guy could just drop this stuff and leave it but not many landowners are going to pay to have that done. And with no real good timber left to make it worth my time to do the extra work for free I'm not interested in doing it. Plus it would take many years to rot down and be walkable. There is thousands of tons of this crap on this job. I slash out what pulp and firewood I can and the rest will be chipped

Isn't that what pulp is out there chipper food? 

[mike_belben]

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 There was a question the other day on another thread on why biomass was important in the north east. This is a prime example of why this lot has been high graded a few times over the years and to do proper tsi we need a market to get rid of this junk to let good wood grow. And yes a guy could just drop this stuff and leave it but not many landowners are going to pay to have that done. And with no real good timber left to make it worth my time to do the extra work for free I'm not interested in doing it. Plus it would take many years to rot down and be walkable. There is thousands of tons of this crap on this job. I slash out what pulp and firewood I can and the rest will be chipped

Isn't that what pulp is out there chipper food?

Pulp is when they chip it.  Biomass is when you do. 

[Skeans1]

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 There was a question the other day on another thread on why biomass was important in the north east. This is a prime example of why this lot has been high graded a few times over the years and to do proper tsi we need a market to get rid of this junk to let good wood grow. And yes a guy could just drop this stuff and leave it but not many landowners are going to pay to have that done. And with no real good timber left to make it worth my time to do the extra work for free I'm not interested in doing it. Plus it would take many years to rot down and be walkable. There is thousands of tons of this crap on this job. I slash out what pulp and firewood I can and the rest will be chipped

Isn't that what pulp is out there chipper food?

Pulp is when they chip it.  Biomass is when you do.

No Mike you can clean chip pulp in the wood, dirty chipping is hog fuel where the tree isn't debarked.

[Maine logger88]

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 There was a question the other day on another thread on why biomass was important in the north east. This is a prime example of why this lot has been high graded a few times over the years and to do proper tsi we need a market to get rid of this junk to let good wood grow. And yes a guy could just drop this stuff and leave it but not many landowners are going to pay to have that done. And with no real good timber left to make it worth my time to do the extra work for free I'm not interested in doing it. Plus it would take many years to rot down and be walkable. There is thousands of tons of this crap on this job. I slash out what pulp and firewood I can and the rest will be chipped

Isn't that what pulp is out there chipper food?

We do have decent pulp markets here although with one paper mill blowing up its abit tight on quotas right now. The biomass is mostly tops after the logs and pulp come out and whole trees that don't have any pulp value

[bushmechanic]

Just in case anyone was wondering why Newfoundland is called The Rock! Sorry about the fuzzy pic's...time for a new phone!

 

 

 

 

[mike_belben]

No Mike you can clean chip pulp in the wood, dirty chipping is hog fuel where the tree isn't debarked.

Doesnt seem to happen here.  Whole tree pulp goes mostly to bowater in calhoun, or rocktenn or westrock, just bunched and delimbed by pullthru.  Sawdust and chips pretty much all goes to kerry and royal oak from the mills ive asked but thats hardwood only.  I dont know about pine sawdust but i dont think theres much pine being sawn in my vicinity.  All the tub grindings i ever see gets dyed on site and sold for landscape mulch by the ton.

I dont think theres any biomass users in this region.  The TVA probably eliminates any need for it.

There was an alcohol from switchgrass operation in knoxville but i dont know what became of it.   Think that was a UT pilot program. Maybe pulled funding.

[Logger RK]

Are biomass chips go to get burned to make electricity at a power plant.

[Riwaka]

Appears to be at least two small municipal biowaste gasification/ energy plants in TN. Covington/ Lebanon.
Biomass Gasification - City of Covington Tennessee
Clean Energy from Landfill Diversion Plus the Bonus of Biochar | Modern Pumping Today

and 3 listed TN biomass pellet manufacturing plants.

[Maine logger88]

Are biomass chips go to get burned to make electricity at a power plant.

Yes the sawmill I sell chips to makes power then uses the steam to run there kiln

[barbender]

Our state legislature allowed a big power provider to reneg on a long term biomass supplied power agreement. The market disappeared literally overnight, as biomass can't compete with coal and natural gas here. I know of 2 plants that shut down, and UPM Blandin had their own biomass power plant on site. They even shut that down as they can buy power cheaper than they could produce it running their own mill waste.

[nativewolf]

Wind and Gas are simply eating up the power market and solar is coming on strong.  Last year renewables produced more energy than coal.  I can't see how biomass can compete with those solutions when coal can't.

 https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/07/great-river-energy-closing-north-dakota-coal-fired-plant-replacing-with-wind-energy/

This is a purpose built fairly new plant with updated emissions and a coal mine right next door.  It is closing because new wind is cheaper than the electricity from this plant.  

[ehp]

bushmechanic , how is the moose hunting out there, its sucks here, no tags

[Maine logger88]

It is hard for biomass to complete with cheaper fuels sappi shuts off a lot of there biomass during the summer months and burns gas when it's cheap and burns biomass in the winter when gas costs more. The mill I sell chips to need to burn chips for heat for there kiln anyway so might as well make power while there at it. They have no gas going to that mill and I hope they never do lol. Some fir pulp I'm setting out I don't have enough room next to the loader for all the sorts so the softwood pulp I haul it off and stack up with the grapple skidder to be hauled on a center mount

[BargeMonkey]

 Finish my loader in the morning, be good for another 20yrs. Re-hosed the entire loader in 4-wire, at the point I'm done messing around.
 

 
One of the smartest things I ever bought,
 

 
Just as I'm finishing the job up I think I lost my turbo tonight, she rolled coal like a first gen dodge drinking natty light with a mullet cruising thru the trailer park 🤣 there's a 495 in VT, I go to buy a skidder and we buy a new excavator today and this happens 🤣


 
I only did this job because I'm determined to be a thorn in my competions side, if wagner wasn't buying his wood he wouldn't exist, now the buyer I'm working for is playing games, got to love it. Instead of just blocking in the woodpile I block off the ENTIRE town turn around with the blessing of the highway supervisor, if they send a truck to grab the logs the guys backing 1.5miles out and good luck.  



 
I need that 640D like a hole in the head. I bunched over 100 yesterday and topped close to 200, I was in bed by 8pm 🤣
 

 
 

 parking this stuff on the lawn here soon 🤣  see them shiny fenders ☝️☝️, that's called the pain train and you better get some. 

[Old Greenhorn]

Hey Barge, isn't that the landing where I visited you? Are you cutting the adjacent parcel now? I thought you were saving those til prices recover? There was some really bangin' wood in there as I recall. If that is the same landing, that driver is gonna have a tough time backing out through that 90° bend. 
 It's a shame that guy is jerking you around. I read some of the details 'elsewhere'. Don't get yourself in trouble man, let somebody else do that. Get his ticket pulled if you can, but don't let him drag you down. Put the law on him. Get a lawyer in the mix and let him do the dirty work.
 Now that things are loosening up I was hoping to make a visit and pick up some log scraps :D, but you are way overloaded at this point and getting on the boat in a few days. How long is that hitch, 2 weeks? More? Did the Seattle trip fall through?

[mike_belben]

Wind and Gas are simply eating up the power market and solar is coming on strong.  Last year renewables produced more energy than coal.  I can't see how biomass can compete with those solutions when coal can't.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/07/great-river-energy-closing-north-dakota-coal-fired-plant-replacing-with-wind-energy/

This is a purpose built fairly new plant with updated emissions and a coal mine right next door.  It is closing because new wind is cheaper than the electricity from this plant.  

Wind is only getting bigger.  I know a guy that does nothing but haul blades.  The new ones are huge.. I mean crazy huge.  And theyre flooding in this very moment.   

[Bandmill Bandit]

In 20 years, whee this side of the pond figures out that wind turbines DONT really cost less in ALL aspects of operation and production, the generation on the ground will want to know how we could be so stupid.

Germany subsidizes it wind farms at a rate of a approximately 1 Euro for every revolution of the tri winged rotor that drives the generator.

At this point close to half of the towers have been DE-commissioned because they have reached the end of the original 15 year contract for construction, warranty AND operation with Enercon. In 99% of the installations the gensets have at least 15 years left in them with some updating to switching and control systems.

Why are they taken out of service??

The towers are built with high grade steel that is specifically formulated for use in the towers that hold the generators ahouse the switch systems.

During the 15 years of operation the towers are subject to the forces of nature AND, more critically, the additional forces of harmonic & ultrasonic vibration exacerbated by the increased electrical magnetic fields that cause a major increase in the concentration and flow of charged "nutrino" particles in around and through the towers that cause crystallization of the steel that the towers are made of.

Catastrophic tower failure is estimated to be likely with in 5 to 7 years MAX, so somewhere between year 15 and 25 from the date the tower was commissioned into service.

Enercon refuses to re certify the towers because AON will not underwrite the new contract for any amount of money.

The towers must be replaced! It is cheaper (less than HALF) to install a new tower with new equipment and generators in a new location.

How do I know? I reviewed the official documents in the process of researching the feasibility for a group of investors locally.

It is economically impossible to underwrite the future liability into the first 15 years of operation and realize any profit , and as result, you end up with the same result (in the Billions) as the ABANDONED oil wells we have all over Alberta. AND this does not include disruption to the migratory flyways and local wildlife.  

SOLAR is not dissimilar! Different? Yes! BUT way more deadly! The deterioration of palladium is about as safe as spent plutonium rods. Life span of the best panels is projected at 25+/- years.

There is ONE way to address this whole fiasco! CONVERSION!

WE MUST achieve conversion factors that approach OR EXCEED 90% of the source material in question. Until we do that, nothing changes accept how and what  we use to damage the world we live on.

Oil and coal hold the most potential, and we have decades of experience to draw on if we are willing to leran the things not to do from that info to develop things that work well, many that have already been proven viable, but been buried because of capitalist corruption and socialist exploitation.

[Crusarius]

I often say that all the stuff that makes the greenies feel warm and fuzzy is much worse for the environment than the old ways of doing things. This definitely confirms that.

One of my favorite examples, when I was working in custom millwork architects always spec'd formaldehyde free particle board. The worst thing is the glues that they developed in place of the formaldehyde glue was more toxic to produce but less toxic in a land fill. Plus it is not as good. Go figure.

[Grizzly]

@Bandmill Bandit  is that why we see windmills around Pincher Creek that are idle? They've been there a long time and some never seem to be turning. And SK just announced another project of 25 windmills east of Swift Current. It only makes sense to a politician I guess.